Technically before the latest reboot, DC's precrisis stories were back in continuity, but no one ran around going 'lol superman blows a star across the cosmos with superbreath!1!!'
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I personally feel the Superman feat was ridic and commented on it as such in a few other threads. Just so out there, and I have a hard time believing writers will continue to have him at those levels.
Which is fine, cause let's be honest Superman has always been a feats machine especially for strength, speed, and durability as those are what he is most known for.
And while it's not always the main or only reason that fact is still a big reason why fans enjoy reading him. They want to see him do tons of feats that are ridiculous.
And it doesn't matter cause that doesn't invalidate another character's feats which clearly put them in Superman's power range or close to it.
I always said there are outlier feats. That's obviously one of them or else Supes will be tossing planets on a regular basis. For the purpose of this thread, all I'm saying is that it's not impossible to accept if Thor could press earth weight or at least come close to it solely going by his strength feats.
When their mightiest moments in 50 years[especially most being over 20 years old] are just average for him any given couple of years, it puts them in perspective. It tells me their average isn't close to his.
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Yeah but saying something and doing something are two different things. Besides he didn't say he would do it for 5 days and while weakened.
I do agree with you on average Superman does far higher things then Thor though. As you mentioned if they have to go 20+ years for a comparable feat, the average isn't the same.
It came out to the tens of quintillions of tons range. Not even 200 quintillion tons like All-Star Superman (which in itself is only about ~3% of the Earth's weight).
It's one of Thor's most notable strength feats, but you have to go back that far just to find an object that's heavy enough for him to lift, that still doesn't let him compare as favorably to Current Superman as a toddler compares to Louis Cyr.
This gave me an idea. You know what things happened exactly the same way in post-crisis history as in silver age. Here superman remembers the death and resurrection of lightning lad as it happned in silver age
That is a smaller strength gap than Midgard Serpent lifting Thor vs Current Superman.
Herald level is just a non-canon fan made term that's part of an attempt at creating tiers so thread making can be a bit more regulated.
It makes people lazy and just assume parity or near parity when they see people written in the same list--even when its cross-company.
Actually compare the strength feats and you'll see there isn't really a parity at all, best for best. Maybe there's a parity in an average vs best scenario, but that's a best case scenario.
What began to set Superman apart from the crowd was the addition of Doomsday and Darkseid to his mythology.
Darkseid, a cosmic god more powerful than the Olympian and Norse gods, that they're even terrified of his name. That created Stayne out of the palm of a his cosmic fist.
And Doomsday, who makes Darkseid feel the same way. Who can walk over 'high heralds' and even godlike beings with nearly equal ease.
Now, Superman's 'average' isn't even close to Doomsday. He literally has pump his power at a rate he just can't maintain to even survive for a period against him, it even killed him the first time. And he's often still at a disadvantage.
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