This doesn't refute my point, at all. She credits him with his unbelievable speed because he always held back, which he did not when he attacked her with his orbalisk armor. Ergo, she's not comparing his speed in their final duel to his speed when he actually attempted to kill her, but to his speed when he was not.
But this is a formal royal family in an Empire that bears their name. Royal rules tend to be far more strict.
Who was strong enough to be promoted to head of Roan's bodyguard, and shared personal confidence with him. Also strong enough that 'fight his way out of a room full of sith' seemed to be something Roan Fel thought was within the realm of possibilities for him and the other three. While the risk of death was high, protecting the decoy was not expected to be a suicide mission for them even in such circumstances.
He was also able to sense a hiding Calixte- who's skilled at hiding herself in the force and has gotten the drop on lesser force users- and used TK on her.
Which might apply the other way around. But as it was Roan who referred to the other as cousin, and kings are priviliged enough to follow whatever rules that govern social conduct they want, there's not a problem.
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No, shes comparing him to all the time shes known him because she says he's faster than she could EVER have imagined. She doesn't directly link his speed to the training either. So she isn't just talking about it in regards to that. Her noting that he had always held back and her noting that he's faster than she could ever have imagined are in completely different paragraphs. Sure it follows on from that, but its separate and its wording ascribes context other than just their training sessions.
Why are you so against this anyway? Just accept it man.
She outright attributes his speed to their sparring sessions in which he never fought as fast as he did, which is why he fought faster than she ever imagined.
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A few other hints support this, such as his strength declining.
And finally, we've got Bane saying that he's weaker than than earlier in life.
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No, she doesn't. And I don't see how that contradicts my point. Why can it not be that Bane became faster than he was in RoT and concealed it in training sessions? That satisfies both interpretations.
Lmao, I'd forgotten that it only says he was 'the merest fraction slower'. Jesus Drew, try not to overstate it or anything.
As I've said numerous times, its probable that Bane became faster than he was in RoT and then got "the merest fraction slower' by DoE.
By "a tiny sliver."
No, he only says that Zannah was waiting for his power to diminish. Plus again that doesn't deny the possibility of Bane becoming stronger between books and then declining.
I'm with Intrepid, it doesn't make much sense for an older, un-amped, admittedly degrading Bane to be faster than a younger, significantly amped, In the range of a decade.
Also notice how much better Zannah holds up against Bane's speed in their second fight--An increase in Skill alone would not change the fact that she couldn't even see him.
"The aging process was subtle, but inescapable. Bane accepted this; what he lost in strength and speed he could easily compensate for with wisdom, knowledge, and experience."
Bane had degraded, but its not as if he hadn't improved in experience and knowledge as well. An increase in Force Mastery could easily off-set slight physical weakness.
Zannah improved in more than just skill. Its not like she couldn't get much faster than she was in RoT.
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