My son, I've no need to enter the fray myself with capable servants such as carthage and SIDIOUS66 taking point. Palpatine's supremacy here and across the interwebz is practically ubiquitous. After all these years, I don't think anyone can fault me for indulging in a bit of good-natured and gentle ribbing after quelling one insurrection after another.
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Vitiate should last longer than Dooku.
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Summary of why Yoda wins? Vitiate is able to one-shot groups of Dark council and Jedi Masters with his Lightning, DC Members can destroy buildings as large as the Dark citadel as a side-effect of their fights and Jedi Masters of the TOR era should roughly equal them.
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2) Unless you're talking about Dooku getting a massive rage amp that he can't replicate anywhere else, he can't choke out Anakin and Obi-Wan at once. Just admit that it was a one time only move that theres no way she could do in another situation and isn't representative of her ability.
3) Unless you can show how the circumstances would matter, it doesn't. Ventresses feat was clearly and obviously circumstantial. Revan's wasn't.
4) I've played both storylines to completion. I know what I'm talking about and I can. Nox is a powerful Sith in her own right and had her strength supplemented by 3 powerful Force spirits by that point. Tossing her around is incredible, not even accounting for doing so to the Wrath as well, who was already taking down Dark Council members.
5) It would be rude to just ignore you.
6) Except that I can and have demonstrated that Revan is superior in TK. I thoroughly proved it right before you threw a temper tantrum. The meteor feat is leagues ahead of what Ventress is capable of. As is him handling the Strike Team with TK, which Ventress couldn't hope to do outside of insane rage amps. And I can prove it because Vitiate is laughably more powerful than Ventress and has vastly superior TK. If a peon like Dooku could beat her in TK, so could Vitiate. Yet he couldn't beat Revan in that manner.
7) Not even close to the same thing. That series is far removed from reality and you know it. Every character is leagues ahead of what they demonstrate in other material.
8) It isn't about being on the bandwagon. Carthage. Is. A. Troll. He is a worthless loser not worth your time and you are better than him.
9) Yeah, I'm mad. Thats why I'm the one constantly trying to bring up past shit and start something with you. Oh no wait, thats you.
You on the other hand, are an amusing specimen in general, which is why I don't think these guys arguing with you are taking it seriously at all because you're not on anyone's radar as far as intelligence and debating go.
Furthermore, I don't recall I said what you just accused me of and I've seen you make wilder claims than that allegation. But do continue, I enjoy reading your childish posts.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
You are a master of making shit up, then saying "trust me" when asked for proof. Truly amusing.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Vitiate didn't one shot a DC with lightning. And Tol Braga was the only master there. Both feats also required prep, and nobody there was on Yoda's level.
Neither could Vitiate under normal circumstances as you admitted later in this thread, so a feat that lacks context can't be used unless you know the exact details. Considering that most of Vitiate's most powerful feats require prep and aid, and the fact that he's never been shown to easily defeat a group of powerful individuals in one swift flash, I don't see why you keep harping on it in a vs thread.
You never did make a case yet. You used powers that Yoda has him beat solidly in (TK), and powers that Yoda has been shown to handle from a more powerful individual who beats Vitiate in that area (lightning). As far as sorcery, Vitiate's lightsaber equipped illusions are fodder for Yoda, and the time it takes for him to summon them is plenty of time for Yoda to use his far greater TK on him. Mind control, useless, as Vitiate's never utilized it successfully mid-combat against a powerful force user, and, as I said, I could make a better case for Yoda blitzing him, seeing how Yoda fought equally as fast as Sidious, who has blitzed other fast force users mid-combat. Besides, Yoda has resisted a very advanced ritual based psychic intrusion from Sidious and Dooku, while he was on a dark side nexus.
If your thoughts have been throroughly debunked, then they are irrelevevant, so you might as well keep them to yourself or make a fanfic if you want to be heard, because your thoughts and opinions do not change the fact that Yoda, without an outside source of power or aid, has displayed more impressive combat-oriented force feats than Vitiate has. Yoda is the more powerful force user and I'll explain how later down this post.
You need to quit ignoring established concepts and canon just to elevate your favorite character. This just shows that your bias for Vitiate does, in fact, have an effect on your reasoning and ability to debate. If Sidious was your fan then it should be easy to acknowledge the fact that he, even as of ROTS, is a more powerful force user than Vitiate is, which would in turn make Yoda more powerful than Vitiate as well, considering he is a very near equal to Sidious in regards to force power alone.
Just to prove to you that Palpatine has shown to be a more dominant force user than Vitiate in regards to combat, and has displayed sheer dominance over other extremely powerful force users off top and with greater ease than Vitiate has over other force users on similar level despite being on a nexus, I will be posting feats of the individuals Sidious has casually dominated. This should give you an idea of just how powerful Yoda is.
Darth Maul
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^Chucks Silus, a force user Sidious considered to be potent in the force, and dampens the energy field with TK.
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^Maul has consistently overpowered Kenobi with TK. The third showing of Maul's force domination over Kenobi also shows him trapping Kenobi by collapsing the cave's ceiling. The last showing Maul was also fighting off another jedi while at the same time force choking Obi Wan. It should be noted that, despite what most think, Kenobi has shown to be very proficient in TK; he has force pushed through shielded droids, crushed droids, and used TK on a molecular level in order to cause a huge water wave.
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^Maul pulls down a tunnel ceiling, which causes a good size avalanche
Savage
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^It should be noted that Mandalorian jail cells are lightsaber and blaster bolt resistant.
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^This last one is obviously a one-off feat and not something Savage could pull off unless he is extremely angry, but the feat does show the sheer raw power Savage has at his disposal. Then again, as shown above, Savage has used a force push powerful enough to hurl Maul, another jedi, and a group of soldiers all at once.
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^Dooku casually lifting 12 obelisks, each weighing multi-ton. This is not just a demonstration of raw power but also a great deal of refinement, considering how he focuses his power, grips and lifts a dozen of very heavy objects all at once.
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^Dooku seals off the entrance of a cave by collapsing it's ceiling.
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^Dooku breaks apart and pulls down a metal bridge that's larger than a starship.
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^Dooku owning other powerful force users with TK. As mention above, Kenobi has pushed through shielded droids, crushed droids, used TK on a molecular level, causing a huge tidal wave of water. Ventress has collapsed huge boulders from a caves ceiling, caused an avalanche, nearly killed master Fay by crushing her heart with TK. Quinlan Vos has used a force push so powerful that it shattered the ground beneath him (similar to Talon's feat against Cade, but not quite as impressive), force hurled a speeder, and telekinetically held up a very massive boulder while injured. The fact that Dooku has casually dominated these powerful force users just shows that Dooku is a TK force titan.
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