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I'm on a phone, and its not highlighting.
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Oh ok, I see it. No he can't please everyone, that would infringe on free will that he gave us, but since we are all different, what makes some happy might make other sad.
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Yup.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672 Yup.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dyajeep also, the Bible really states some things God cannot do, for example:"In hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie , promised before time began,"it is impossible for God to lie , we might have strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us." "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning ." "If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself ."
is hence, it cannot be considered false as its becoming true by the statement itself (performative speech). With language as an effective action, a rebuttal of divinty would be entirely impossible. Since there are no possible rebuttals, there cannot be an absence either so transformation is also separated from the divine essence.__________________
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial Oh ok, I see it. No he can't please everyone, that would infringe on free will that he gave us, but since we are all different, what makes some happy might make other sad.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, happiness is relative. Therefore, the fact the everyone is not happy is not a valid argument against God's omnipotence.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial I'm not arguing against his omnipotence.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672 I posted in the Christianity Symbolism thread yesterday about an early church experience.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison That's not the point, my friend. Out of all the arguments against God's omnipotence, this one:
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial Oh yes, I disagree with that one. I was just trying to understand where he was coming from.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison Somethings are just mysteries.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial Why do you believe there is no God? I think you told me but I forgot.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison I am not an Atheist. I simply believe that the Christian god is man made just like the Greek and Encryption gods it was derived from. God cannot be written in a book, is what I believe.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dyajeep also, the Bible really states some things God cannot do, for example:"In hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie , promised before time began,"it is impossible for God to lie , we might have strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us." "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning ." "If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself ."
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bentley You could read those three aspects as the very same thing. The first would be the quality of perfect creation, whatever is said by the divinity inmediately is hence, it cannot be considered false as its becoming true by the statement itself (performative speech). With language as an effective action, a rebuttal of divinty would be entirely impossible. Since there are no possible rebuttals, there cannot be an absence either so transformation is also separated from the divine essence.
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riv6672 Senior Member Gender: Unspecified
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial Oh yes, I disagree with that one. I was just trying to understand where he was coming from.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672
Well shaky comes from the land if " i like to argue will pretend i dont care about the subject but will go at it for a page and a half anyway".
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672
Well shaky comes from the land if " i like to argue will pretend i dont care about the subject but will go at it for a page and a half anyway". quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672 How you know? You arent omnipotent.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial Feel free, I like your threads, I like debates.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
He can't debate you. You'd stomp him into the ground.
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