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krisblaze
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Exodus is a definite weak link tbh.

The idea of him fighting Superman seems ridiculous.

But the idea of Nate, Cable and Exodus taking down the team with a combined psi-assault makes sense.


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Exodus is a definite weak link tbh.

The idea of him fighting Superman seems ridiculous.

But the idea of Nate, Cable and Exodus taking down the team with a combined psi-assault makes sense.

How is he the weak link when he can wipe the floor with WW?


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So what fight of Sersi did she use the attacks you are suggesting? And there's still no evidence presented saying Sersi never used her abilities.


I will not engage in further mental gymnastics. If you feel she displayed anything other than mental combat and energy projection SHOW me. Spare me your circular arguments

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Diana isn't blitzing anything.

Also why do you ignore the fact that Exodus actually dropped Insane Sersi (if only for a few moments). On another occasion, he had Sersi and Dane dead to rights till Apocalypse jumped in and saved them. In yet another instance, Sersi had the Avengers backing her and they STILL couldn't stop Exodus.


You're making those scenes out to way more than they are. Especially when Sersi played to his strengths and didn't use her powers.

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Sin, who are you giving the majority to here and why?


Team 2. Mental resistance or outright immunity. Superior combat experience, superior speed, damage soak, Superior strength, the outright scan difference is ridic, superior teamwork. God Cable is OVERRATED. Got dropped the second Norrin got serious. Exodus is OVERRATED. His greatest feat is owning a team of metas and STALEMATING Sersi. He just got ragdolled by Magneto and he always folds against elite top tiers not named Sersi. Which leaves Nate.

Its a no brainer


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How is he the weak link when he can wipe the floor with WW?


Im not so sure if he can.

In fact I really doubt it.


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How is he the weak link when he can wipe the floor with WW?


wut?


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Team 2 wins.

But they do not have outright immunity.


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How is he the weak link when he can wipe the floor with WW?


Exodus will get destroyed by Diana.


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Exodus is a definite weak link tbh.

The idea of him fighting Superman seems ridiculous.


Exodus has invulnerability and super strength to the the degree that he held his own against rogue after she absorbed kid gladiator powers. It's not that ridiculous TBH.


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Exodus has invulnerability and super strength to the the degree that he held his own against rogue after she absorbed kid gladiator powers. It's not that ridiculous TBH.


Rogue with Kid Gladiator's powers? So a 40 tonner with a 50 tonner absorbed or something then?

In a physical matchup WW would slaughter him.


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Rogue with Kid Gladiator's powers? So a 40 tonner with a 50 tonner absorbed or something then?



His strength depends on how confident he is and thus varies.

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Where are people getting that kid Gladiator is 40 to 50 tons? Is that a myth?


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How is he the weak link when he can wipe the floor with WW?
Not likely


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I will quote OP, on WW:

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Heres an example. Wonder Woman is so fast that her speed allows her to go invisible right in front of Supes. To the point that he was unable to track her. Unable to see her while she was moving around at Super speed.

http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3051005
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3051006

She was even able to enter the speed force under her own power.

http://imgur.com/a/jS1uF

Manhunter tells us that WW is as fast as the Flashes (which is quite true. The lady has raced alongside Flash and blitzed Zoom) while casually disappearing from her site.

http://imgur.com/a/DW9qW

Mercury is even impressed by her speed.

http://i.imgur.com/R5cHkY0.jpg

Hell, she even compares her speed to Amazo who had the entirety of the JLA powers, including Superman and Diana speed (he's faster than CLARK... AS FAST AS ME).

http://i.imgur.com/cwVldu1.jpg

Her reflexes are uncanny. Here she deflect trillions of stars that was coming from each side of the universe.

http://imgur.com/a/5dOoi

This is an example. Diana have lows but this is an obvious scan. Diana have the eyes of a god. There is no hiding or leaving her site. She also understands with a gods wisdom to the point that Max was unable to affect her.

http://i.imgur.com/6VG6Dax.jpg
I guess you all need more confirmation that I will be ok from any mind games. I'm not forgetting anything. I have the eyes of a God, the armor and magic of Doom and I also have the lasso of truth. It frees you from any control.

http://i.imgur.com/L78JlR0.jpg

Wonder Woman moves faster than a heart beat, FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF THOUGHT. Faster than a Dream.

http://i.imgur.com/AikpUTv.jpg



So WW, who is faster than speedsters, EXPLICITLY faster than thought, and is resistant (if not immune) to telepaths, with the wisdom of a goddess...will solo.

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I will quote OP, on WW:




So WW, who is faster than speedsters, EXPLICITLY faster than thought, and is resistant (if not immune) to telepaths, with the wisdom of a goddess...will solo.

Great thread thumb up

Source: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f105/t621902.html


According to his profile at Marvel.com Cable can track speedsters movements with his eyes. Furthermore, Both Nathans can slip into moments between time and see time on a plank scale.


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...able+31+010.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uVWu7Jx.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/nwhvsx.jpg

Even Exodus could keep up with rogue despite her having K. Gladiators abilities which are the same as regular gladiator.


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The writer was full of sh|t then, here he is going toe to toe with Insane Sersi :
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The basis of his powers is 'beyond psionic' :
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He's fought her on at least two occasions, she's never beaten him and on one occasion she had the Avengers helping her and still he held his own. Insane Sersi two piece Immortal Hercules (something Thor, Namor, Hulk, etc.. have never done), caused a tsunami that wiped out the Brooklyn Bridge, etc..
This is one of Sersi's best telepathy feats.

How do we know Sersi is a strong telepath? Well, she stalemated Exodus once.
How do we know Exodus is a strong telepath? Well, he stalemated Sersi once.



Anyways, the above silliness aside: obviously Exodus is relatively strong within Marvel, but he is the least effective combatant on the board here. He doesn't add anything that Nate Grey and God Cable don't already bring to the table. If I thought that Team 2 would definitely fall to a Cable/Nate/Exodus psi-blast, I could probably be persuaded to believe that Team 2 would also fall to a Cable/Nate psi-blast.

Like a bunch of people have already said, Team 2 should win, but Team 1 has options.

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According to his profile at Marvel.com Cable can track speedsters movements with his eyes. Furthermore, Both Nathans can slip into moments between time and see time on a plank scale.


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...able+31+010.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uVWu7Jx.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/nwhvsx.jpg

Even Exodus could keep up with rogue despite her having K. Gladiators abilities which are the same as regular gladiator.


Cable vs Quicksilver (who is FAR slower than a Flash, and WW apparently is able to blitz/keep up with Zoom, who is >>>> Wally) - let's see how that goes, shall we?
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XTME0-d_...s1600/57_12.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1MPgaMVS...s1600/57_13.jpg

AND he had prepped for QS, lol.

Furthermore, Kid Gladiator is no Kallark. Kallark's the Cap America of Strontians. Not to mention, WW is faster than thought. Explicitly, according to OP.


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Cable vs Quicksilver (who is FAR slower than a Flash, and WW apparently is able to blitz/keep up with Zoom, who is >>>> Wally) - let's see how that goes, shall we?
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XTME0-d_...s1600/57_12.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1MPgaMVS...s1600/57_13.jpg

AND he had prepped for QS, lol.

Furthermore, Kid Gladiator is no Kallark. He's the Cap America of Strontians. Not to mention, WW is faster than thought. Explicitly, according to OP.


A scan of Cable trying to talk QS out of Red Skulls mind control and getting blind sided negates my point how? Cable can only slip into moments between time sometimes, God-like cable should be ale to do it easily. Nate even easier.

"Faster than thought" is hyperbole unless you mean the speed at which synapses fire to the brain which isn't that fast.

Kid Gladiator has the same powers as Gladiator. The variation is the level of confidence, but even if he's weaker he was still strong enough to break Rulks jaw.


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God Cable was transmuting the Earth while keeping up with a speedblitz attack from Surfer.

Nate Grey's ability to see time in a bajillion senses and step between moments is well documented.

Their speed of thought =/= our speed of thought.

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God Cable was transmuting the Earth while keeping up with a speedblitz attack from Surfer.

Nate Grey's ability to see time in a bajillion senses and step between moments is well documented.

Their speed of thought =/= our speed of thought.


Who takes this in your opinion?


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