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If she has the reflexes to zip through tight corridors at Flash speed she can dodge the hammer no problem. If her reflexes are as a bad as you say, she'd slam into every wall along the way. Sure she has a instances of insane CIS but saying she can't dodge the hammer is just abusing the argument. Flash has been punched by people too. Would he be unable to dodge a hammer throw?

Anyones claims of Thor winning hinges highly on whether or not this fight is PIS/CIS off, because there is no way in hell he could win otherwise. That should tell you everything about the arguments ITT. It's a flat out stomp.


Let me put it to you this way: If you're a racecar driver driving at 100 mph and you see a curve coming up, you can easily steer through the curve. Why? because you're the one in control of your movement. You know which direction you're moving in, you have control to fine tune your acceleration, speed and movements to make sure you make the turn. You are allowed to prepare for the movement.

In comparison, if you're standing in the middle of the track and a car comes around the corner and comes at you at 100 mph, you're going to have a very hard time dodging. You have no control over its speed and direction. And since you didn't instigate the movement, you are unable to properly gauge just how fast it is going in relation to you. And since you're not controlling the movement, you are also unable to properly prepare for the event.

Supergirl flying around and not hitting her head is way way different from dodging out of the way of a fast moving flying object.


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Originally posted by Arachnid1
Yes, a show that gives her ridiculous feats like lifting a million tons and being fast enough to fight the Flash at an even speed while still letting random mooks punch her to create drama. PIS/CIS at its finest.

These CW super hero shows need to get it together with the showings. It wreaks havok in these forums


Too bad this isn't a weightlifting contest. As this is a fight, we're going to base it off of Supergirl's fight feats... or are you saying we should completely disregard all of her fighting feats?


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Too bad this isn't a weightlifting contest. As this is a fight, we're going to base it off of Supergirl's fight feats... or are you saying we should completely disregard all of her fighting feats?
No, it just means that the mooks who give Supergirl trouble would easily manhandle Thor. It's simple my son.


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No, it just means that the mooks who give Supergirl trouble would easily manhandle Thor. It's simple my son.


Bet you don't have any proof to back that up with.


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Bet you don't have any proof to back that up with.
Sure I do. Supergirl has feats far outside of Thor's capabilities to match, and these characters have caused her far more trouble than Thor would. Ergo, they'd casually shitstomp Thor.


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So people are just ignoring that SG has casually lifted and handled the weight of two billion pounds with a single hand?

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So people are just ignoring that SG has casually lifted and handled the weight of two billion pounds with a single hand?
It's really sad and pathetic downplaying tbh.

They just find it hard to believe that their big blonde beefcake Norse husbando would get his ass casually beat by not only Supergirl, but by her random monsters of the week. thumb up


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Sure I do. Supergirl has feats far outside of Thor's capabilities to match, and these characters have caused her far more trouble than Thor would. Ergo, they'd casually shitstomp Thor.


So let me get this straight. I point out that Supergirl has lifting feats greater than Thor but not fighting feats. You postulate that the foes she fought could beat Thor in a fight. I ask you to prove it and your proof is... that Supergirl has good lifting feats? Because she certainly doesn't have fighting feats better than Thor's.

You can't use the argument in question as the proof for that same argument.

Here's my counter proof: You can visually see how much faster, more fluid, more skilled and more powerful Thor moves in a fight as compared to majority of the mooks that give Supergirl trouble.


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So people are just ignoring that SG has casually lifted and handled the weight of two billion pounds with a single hand?

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No, but we also can't ignore the fact that Supergirl keeps having trouble defeating villains that Thor would steamroll through.


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Jobbing for the sake of the storyline doesn't transfer over into Vs matches where the players (unless otherwise stated) are both at their best shown performances.


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Jobbing for the sake of the storyline doesn't transfer over into Vs matches where the players (unless otherwise stated) are both at their best shown performances.


It's not jobbing if you do it almost every single episode. Then it's pretty much the norm.


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Comic Flash has multiple FTL feats, Deathstroke has multiple feats of landing hits/attacks on Flash, ergo Deathstroke is FTL.

Is this really the argument people want to use?


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No, but we also can't ignore the fact that Supergirl keeps having trouble defeating villains that Thor would steamroll through.
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DC fans focus on lifting feats not fighting feats.


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Comic Flash has multiple FTL feats, Deathstroke has multiple feats of landing hits/attacks on Flash, ergo Deathstroke is FTL.

Is this really the argument people want to use?


Flash while capable of FTL, doesn't always function at those speeds in the comics.

In a Vs match though where both are at their best, you can be sure that the Flash would FTL punch Deathstroke into mist. This isn't hard, man.


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Supergirl has more than enough power, speed, and versatility to take on all the Avengers let alone Thor: I don't think anyone would argue against this point.

The problem stems from Supergirl being just as inept as she is power. Granted something may have happened over the course of her show this season to prove otherwise, and if so I'd eat crow, but I still hold to the opinion that Thor would win.

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DC fans focus on lifting feats not fighting feats.


If someone is strong and durable enough to lift, hold and manipulate two billion pounds with a single hand, they don't have to be the best fighters to win against someone who is ridiculously below them.

eg MCU Hawkeye is a more skilled fighter than MCU Hulk. But he's not taking out Hulk 1v1 thumb up


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We argue in character, so no. the Flash wouldn't FTL punch Deathstroke into mist. not unless CIS was removed or bloodlust was added.


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We argue in character, so no. the Flash wouldn't FTL punch Deathstroke into mist. not unless CIS was removed or bloodlust was added.


This is true, in character, TV Barry would just run back in time and f*ck things up for everyone else.


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So let me get this straight. I point out that Supergirl has lifting feats greater than Thor but not fighting feats.


Do you have proof that God takes away Supergirl's physical strength in fights?

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You postulate that the foes she fought could beat Thor in a fight. I ask you to prove it and your proof is... that Supergirl has good lifting feats?


It's simple powerscaling lad, try to keep up.

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Because she certainly doesn't have fighting feats better than Thor's.


Fighting feats like what? Looking REALLY REALLY cool when he fights? Lmao.

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You can't use the argument in question as the proof for that same argument.


Ah so you're accusing me of using circular reasoning. You have a very poor understanding of the term then.

Circular reasoning is when one's premise and argument are the same thing.

My premise is that Supergirl's random mooks will make Thor's anus prolapse. My argument is that Supergirl's feats are far superior to anything Thor has shown, meaning that she would casually manhandle Thor. Her foes are able to challenge Supergirl, therefore they could best him handily as well.

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Here's my counter proof: You can visually see how much faster,


So we ignore all the speed feats Supergirl has because Thor "looks" faster?

Also, in what fight scene by the way? Because all of Thor's fight scenes portray him as a brawler who doesn't visually use much in the way of super speed in fights. When he fights Loki he isn't moving so fast he can't be seen. Likely because a fight we can't see is boring.

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more fluid,


This is a buzzword only a phaggot would use my son.

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more skilled


Skill only matters if the opponents are roughly physical peers. Supergirl is many times Thor's physical superior. His skill means nothing here.

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and more powerful Thor moves in a fight


What does this even mean my son?

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as compared to majority of the mooks that give Supergirl trouble.


Let me tell you what you are doing. You are essentially saying that Thor wins because he benefits from a much better budget.

By your logic, Thor should beat Reeves Superman in a fight despite Superman's feats being many orders of magnitude better, simply due to how dated the special effects are.

Tell me if you believe Thor would beat Reeves Superman, so I can dismiss your opinions are being excremental gayness.


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If someone is strong and durable enough to lift, hold and manipulate two billion pounds with a single hand, they don't have to be the best fighters to win against someone who is ridiculously below them.

eg MCU Hawkeye is a more skilled fighter than MCU Hulk. But he's not taking out Hulk 1v1 thumb up
Because they have been portrayed in the same films as completely different. We know Thor has taken on the Hulk who casually stopped a leviathan. It's a feat we don't over exaggerate and forget how these guys stack up against guys without these feats and pretend there's a vast difference rbetween the two. Fights and portrayals matter more than feats.


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