Well, supernatural talent is a pretty superficial trait, if it's not backed up by actual feats. Which was my point, you were arguing that "on paper," Orion is more skilled than this entire team, so I showed someone with just as much "on paper" skill as him, being less skilled than Wolverine. Honestly, it's at least, not at best. Lazaer's strength was listed as one of his advantages over Wolverine.
Right, that's what I figured. And again, if his skill had been mentioned as outmatching hers, it would have been worth bringing up, but the actual narration gave the credit to his returned ferocity.
And it's a great fight, but all of these guys have feats of going up against physically superior opponents with a lot of skill and winning. Nothing about that fight makes him "far more skilled than all of them combined," even in conjunction with his status of War God.
Him vanishing in plain sight is labeled a "ninja trick." Him outright moving so fast that nobody in front of him can see what happened is a speed feat.
So now the arguments gone from, "Orion is much faster than these three, look at this feat where he moves too fast to see," to, "those speed feats are only as impressive as Orion's, not more impressive like you're trying to claim"?" Cause if that's where we're at, I'm good with it.
I do believe that moving too fast for trained gunmen/soldiers to see what you're doing, when they're surrounding you/you're moving straight at them, is more impressive than a girl looking at at you from a distance, and trying to comprehend something that is clearly outside of any expectations she had. But if you insist that they're only as impressive, then I agree to treat them as such.
Yes, he was given an adamantium skeleton. And, just like Angel, he kept the upgrade.
You are the best I've ever seen at missing the point.
Credit where it's due.
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Catching bullets while your back is turned equal being able to catch Spiderman webbing. Hulk was being sniped at and did not see it coming and still had enough time to catch the bullet with his teeth. Guess how he takes against webbing?
Ize, I'll have to reply when Photobucket is being more cooperative. I've tried several times to make a ****ing album for some relevant scans and it's not working.
There's also scans of him blind speed-blitzing a bunch of mobsters with Apokolipsian weaponry.
I'll let cdtm say it for me.
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