So it seems you're unwilling to do anything until the house is already burned down as a pile of ash is the only proof you'll accept, not the warnings from the fire marshal saying "yeah, don't have so many plugs in a single outlet, it could cause a fire". Not sure that's a good strategy, the ash strategy.
Another way to look at it, taking measures but nothing happens as it's all just a "Chinese Hoax", means we've made changes and spent money. As a side affect, we probably have less overall pollution. Not doing anything and it turns out all these scientist were onto something and it's all true, future generations are severely ****ed.
I'll give you some credit though, you didn't use the lazy "It's in God's hands!" dismissal.
I'm unwilling to do anythin until the Firemen(who've been proven wrong repeatedly) show some concrete evidence that there's a serious threat of fire. I myself am poor and don't support anything that might cost me money unless there's a solid reason for me to shell out the cash. So if the changes involve any increase to my cost of living whatsoever, then yeah I'm against it.
I do understand your reasoning though. A lot of religious people feel the same way "If there's no God then I've lost nothing but the extra effort of living my life religiously, but if there is then I'm covered when I die".
Except of course you're not solely burdening the cost of a power-strip. It would quit literally cost you just a few cents, your life wouldn't change much, if at all :/
Hey if they can concretely prove that the measures they want to take will cost me less than an extra buck spent over the course of my entire life I might support them. But between tax increases to make the change and an increase in my utility bill I somehow suspect that's not the case. I have 2 kids and both are low/mid functioning autistics so there's little/no chance of me ever ending up with grandkids. My responsibilities are to them and myself alone, I'm not going to support anything that theoretically takes away from them for the benefit of anyone else's great grandchildren.
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The changes proposed now are very gradual and you'd barely feel it, if at all, as noted, no one sensible is saying we're stopping driving cars tomorrow and running factories on rainbows. Waiting until the shit hits the fan though and fecal matter gets flung all around/on enveryone, then changes would be drastic and you'd most definitely feel that along with your autistic twins. Since you only care about yourself as Jesus intended. (kudos though, that autistic part was funny)
My kids are in fact austistic. You don't have to believe me if you choose not to, but it was a fact not a joke. But I never said they were twins. David's 13 and Ariel's 8.
Wasn't aware, thought you were using an extreme example to illustrate a point.
Still, what I said doesn't change. Now is more sensible than waiting until it's too late. To go back to the fire comparison. A power strip is cheaper than rebuilding a house that wasn't insured.
Al Gores movies have completly flopped. Supposidly according to polls a majority of people believe in global warming but when presented with a movie that caters to them, they dont support it. His latest movie was a flop.
"Climate change skeptics have pointed to 1934 in the U.S. as proof that recent hot years are not unusual. Choosing the year 1934 is an obvious example of "cherry-picking" a single fact that supports a claim, while ignoring the rest of the data. In fact they have to cherry pick both a location (the U.S.) and a year (1934) to find data that is far from the global trend. Globally, the years 2014, 2015 and 2016 are the hottest on record, so far."
No it's true here's another quote from me just so you don't think it's something I'm making it up on the fly...
When they can actually show me that there's something to be alarmed about within my kids lifetimes, I'll worry. But again, they've been wrong repeatedly so I'm not about to voluntrily alter my lifestyle in any way that make our lives more difficult/complicated than they already are until they show that they have the science down pat on the subject. I altered my lifestyle for years when I was younger because of all the eco friendly cries about things like deforestation, recycling, and global warming only to later find out that a lot of the stuff they were saying was BS. I'm not about to do it again now that I have disabled children to look after in the present.
"global mean temperature" is the term. since they are unable/unwilling to comprehend it's meaning, they declare victory.
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