the same logic could be used to excuse that guy who used to get broken-down old homeless people to beat eachother up for $20.
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saw another back in the late 90's where the guy was clearly half-conscious and helpless and the ref actually said "finish him" like it was mortal kombat. i have no clip of that though.
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LOl. he didn't tell him to continue beating him. That dude was still struggling, and upon inspection, he did call the fight. Not to mention the whole ordeal went on for like 5-6 seconds.
nah, the refs job is to step in and stop the fighting when someone loses consciousness. that's pretty much their most important role.
you don't leave the decision up to the other fighter whether or not to beat an unconscious opponent
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Should be noted that the UFC/MMA has come some ways compared to the early days when you had guys fighting 3 matches in a single night and practically no rules.
Still, striking a KO'd opponent is never a good thing
The dude was struggling to get out of the hold. Had he held the chocke for like another second, I'm fairly certain the fight would have been called. Had he ended it a couple of seconds earlier, there would have been an uproar because the fight was stopped too early.
happens often in boxing. better than the risk of having a fighter strike an unconscious person.
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Perhaps, but I don't think it was a terrible call personally. Another second of the hold and I would have called it, but I'd give him a shot to get out of it. i've seen other fighters do it.
regardless, the point we're both circling around is that it's far more difficult to determine a persons level of consciousness when they're fighting on their back than when they are on their feet.
a half-conscious man on his feet will wobble/stumble/fall, while there are no blatant signs otherwise, unless they just fully black out. that's part of why i think it's too risky.
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It is fighting. There is always risk. While I don't think it's the best way to make a living, I'm not going to look down on those that do. Not a personal attack on you.
and i'm not campaigning to strip you of your right to fight for sport.
i only made a decision as a consumer of entertainment for those reasons stated.
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