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They are not failed points, they cut through the BS, and expose the hypocrisy.


There is no hypocrisy there. Other then the imagined kind of course.


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Those tax payers need to be more concerned with the fact that their tax dollars go to an organization that makes billions of dollars every year then. It's listed as a "non profit" and shouldn't be, THAT'S what they need to be forcused on and trying to change.


LOL, the NFL is listed as a non profit? You can't be serious!

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LOL, the NFL is listed as a non profit? You can't be serious!

Yup. That's why they get federal money.


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Those tax payers need to be more concerned with the fact that their tax dollars go to an organization that makes billions of dollars every year then. It's listed as a "non profit" and shouldn't be, THAT'S what they need to be forcused on and trying to change.


Non-profits. laughing

Too true.


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There is no hypocrisy there. Other then the imagined kind of course.


So explain to me how you can support the protest, and say who cares about the flag, anthem, but at the same time support the removal of statueslaughing out loud

You can't have it both ways!

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Yup. That's why they get federal money.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/nflexempt.asp

They are not a non profit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.dc8eda867dca

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Eh, I'm no fan of the NFL, find it boring and I despise that state tax dollars go to stadiums when they never really recoup the cost back to the tax payers, but:

"The NFL's tax exemption applied only to the league office and not to the teams themselves, and the office has since given up its non-profit status."

So let's not get too crazy here


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Are you sure they're still getting your tax money then?


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They get city taxes for stadiums if the city council passes the tax for a new stadium.

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So explain to me how you can support the protest, and say who cares about the flag, anthem, but at the same time support the removal of statueslaughing out loud

You can't have it both ways!


For one, your insistence that the protest is about being anti-America and/or even Anti-Anthem is false. It's not about that, they're kneeling to draw attention to a cause (you can agree or not here on the cause), they're not kneeling to have the anthem taken away or to destroy America.

See, no hypocrisy in reality. Only imagined hypocrisy. Glad we could clear that up.


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What cause would that be, I doubt any of the players even know what they are kneeling for other then to protest Trump.

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They get city taxes for stadiums if the city council passes the tax for a new stadium.

Then THAT'S what people should focus on changing. If nothing else, that kind of pressure might force them to make an official "No political statements while in uniform" policy.


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What cause would that be, I doubt any of the players even know what they are kneeling for other then to protest Trump.


This is another false narrative being pushed by Trump/Trumpers.


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Lol, no, you think 200 players took the knee this weekend for "social justice." laughing out loud

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Then THAT'S what people should focus on changing. If nothing else, that kind of pressure might force them to make an official "No political statements while in uniform" policy.


I agree wholeheartedly

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Listen, I'm sorry if you thought SM made some grand valid point in naming hypocrisy, but he didn't. I pointed that out with facts as shown above, you can accept that or not, your choice. I don't care.


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For one, your insistence that the protest is about being anti-America and/or even Anti-Anthem is false. It's not about that, they're kneeling to draw attention to a cause (you can agree or not here on the cause), they're not kneeling to have the anthem taken away or to destroy America.

See, no hypocrisy in reality. Only imagined hypocrisy. Glad we could clear that up.


I read that more as Sable asking why one is worth caring about over the other.

If your message to those claiming offense to someone refusing to honor the anthem/flag is to "get over it", how is it different for someone to tell another who takes offense at a few racist statues to "get over it."


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IF you can't see the flag and the anthem as a symbol of unity, but a political tool, I can't help you.

"But slaves 200 years ago!"< Whole World Had slaves
"But womens suffrage!:<Whole World didn't give equal rights to women
"Police Brutality!"<How many paychecks did you hand over to your community.

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Then THAT'S what people should focus on changing. If nothing else, that kind of pressure might force them to make an official "No political statements while in uniform" policy.


So **** these guys then and their cause, eh?

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IF you can't see the flag and the anthem as a symbol of unity, but a political tool, I can't help you.

"But slaves 200 years ago!"< Whole World Had slaves
"But womens suffrage!:<Whole World didn't give equal rights to women
"Police Brutality!"<How many paychecks did you hand over to your community.


If you insist on people kneeling in peaceful and silent protest as a both a threat and attack on America, then you really need some help


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