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Damborgson
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There's no clear cut formula for lifting Mjolnir.

Some common characteristics however:

-noble
-courageous
-heroic
-able to kill if necessary

And I think its that last one that trips Superman up. If anything, he's too pure for the hammer.

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Killing is definitely not a part of the stipulation.

Killing has only gotten Thor in trouble.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Damborgson
There's no clear cut formula for lifting Mjolnir.

Some common characteristics however:

-noble
-courageous
-heroic
-able to kill if necessary

And I think its that last one that trips Superman up. If anything, he's too pure for the hammer.

He picked it up in a crossover, which both companies acknowledge. An event we cant use here in forum for power ranking, but it terms of Superman lifting the Mjolnir, it's totally find.

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Originally posted by JBL
Do you know how the PS work?

Do you?

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Originally posted by leonidas
pfft. wtf would a high ranking angel from heaven know about purity or souls? ffs can we PLEASE just ban stupid people? i'm begging at this point.

talk about gr's highest healing feats, or his magic weapons or...anything, but ffs do not talk about the ps taking him out. and of course anyone with a lick of sense enough to realize this fact just HAS to whack off to superman, amiright??? ****ing imbeciles.

We all should get banned and the Forum should be taken over by the most knowledgeable posters this forum has to offer, that is JBL, Carver, Quan and RW.

Then only the "Truth" would prevail.

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Pure soul.

Superman has killed and he's been traumatized by it. The Penance Stare will work, no doubt.

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You have to have a pure soul to lift thors hammer. Guess who failed. I love how everybody along with rats come out of hiding to praise one scan when there are plenty others saying the opposite.

No you don't. You just have to be a worthy candidate. Red Norvell picked it up because of his warrior heart.

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He picked it up in a crossover, which both companies acknowledge. An event we cant use here in forum for power ranking, but it terms of Superman lifting the Mjolnir, it's totally find.

Read the comic again.

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Take is easy!

Of course PS will work on Superman. Of course he aint pure. He uses his xRay vision to spy on people. He even listens in on people's private conversation!

stupidity irritates me. and of course you have proof of both your statements, of course?

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Prof. T.C McAbe
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PS works on people and makes them experience the pain of their victims, the pain they caused with purpose on innocent people. On Superman it won't work, his soul is in that regard pure.

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It even varies. When used on Venom, for example, hardly the purest soul, GR was hurt more from the backlash.

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PS works on people and makes them experience the pain of their victims, the pain they caused with purpose on innocent people. On Superman it won't work, his soul is in that regard pure.

The guilt is a major factor. Superman feels it.

Punisher doesn't and was able to no-sell the stare.

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The guilt is a major factor. Superman feels it.

Punisher doesn't and was able to no-sell the stare.

Supermans feels guilt, hence it won't work on him. Acceptance/forgiveness. Easy concept.

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Nah.

Castle is everything Supes is not.

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...6-punisher3.jpg

Penance stare worked on good guys before. Superman is far from perfect, as long as his soul and vision are intact, the PS can mess him up.

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Nah.

Castle is everything Supes is not.

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...6-punisher3.jpg

Penance stare worked on good guys before. Superman is far from perfect, as long as his soul and vision are intact, the PS can mess him up.

Seconded

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Nah.

Castle is everything Supes is not.

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...6-punisher3.jpg

Penance stare worked on good guys before. Superman is far from perfect, as long as his soul and vision are intact, the PS can mess him up.

No as good as Supes and as seen here it fails against worse guys then Supes. If at all this scan with the scan of Asmodel failing a similar power shows that Supermans soul is to pure to be affected by this.

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There's also Neron saying Superman's soul is too pure for him, and failing to possess him.

https://m.imgur.com/ir2HgX2

So that's an angel and a devil both saying the same thing.

As Leo says, using the PS has a autowin tactic is shaky, just because it IS debateable if it would even work based on 'pureness'.

There are other tactics. But calling people who actually provide proof as Superman lovers is.....yeah.

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No as good as Supes and as seen here it fails against worse guys then Supes. If at all this scan with the scan of Asmodel failing a similar power shows that Supermans soul is to pure to be affected by this.

Countless comics have pointed out that Superman is... human. A sinner, just like the rest of us. Flawed.

He also happens to be weak to magic... and even characters with vast magical resistance like Voodoo and Strange failed to defend against the stare.

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And yet, when an analogous attack is used, he takes it like a champ.

That's like us arguing whether Punisher would tank it or not. At the end of the day, it happened.

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There's also Neron saying Superman's soul is too pure for him, and failing to possess him.

https://m.imgur.com/ir2HgX2

So that's an angel and a devil both saying the same thing.

As Leo says, using the PS has a autowin tactic is shaky, just because it IS debateable if it would even work based on 'pureness'.

There are other tactics. But calling people who actually provide proof as Superman lovers is.....yeah.