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Be quiet. You’re just spewing crap now.

Buying a weapon on a country you live, is not the same as a refugee seeking to come here.


Yet, it did not stop you from drawing the comparison, did it?

You questioned why "the left" is concerned about terrorists threatening to buy firearms for use in terror attacks, but not about terrorists threatening to enter the country as refugees.

And I explained to you that there is a 24-month long vetting process to enter the country as a refugee, but one can purchase a firearm without so much as background check.

There is a system in place to stop one threat, but not the other. That is why.


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Yet, it did not stop you from drawing the comparison, did it?

You questioned why "the left" is concerned about terrorists threatening to buy firearms for use in terror attacks, but not about terrorists threatening to enter the country as refugees.

And I explained to you that there is a 24-month long vetting process to enter the country as a refugee, but one can purchase a firearm without so much as background check.

There is a system in place to stop one threat, but not the other. That is why.


"You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully-automatic assault rifle, without a background check, and most likely without having to show an identification card. So what are you waiting for?"

You realize this is not true, correct? Who knew an al Qaeda spokesperson would be wrong?


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I do hope it was just Adam making the retarded claim. It is alarming if this "expert" thinks this is possible.


Speaking of retards, it is alarming you think our nation's lead counterterrorism expert, whose job is to protect us from national security threats, knows less about the subject than a YouTuber.


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Speaking of retards, it is alarming you think our nation's lead counterterrorism expert, whose job is to protect us from national security threats, knows less about the subject than a YouTuber.


So just to be clear again, you know the shit you posted was false, correct? At least the bit I highlighted. It was nowhere near being correct.


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So just to be clear again, you know the shit you posted was false, correct? At least the bit I highlighted.


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Uh, no. You've misunderstood what the expert said and have went off in a tangent posting statistics that have little bearing on what was claimed. What the expert said was that America's lax gun laws allow extremists to more easily purchase lethal weapons, and we have more than one example of terrorist groups encouraging their members to take advantage of America's gun laws.

. . . He simply cited America's current regulations as a potential danger as they could be exploited by extremists. That's his job as a counter terrorism expert, to pre-empt the actions of terrorists and identify vulnerabilities. Relative to other countries, purchasing guns in America is very easy, so that will be a tempting target for terrorists and is a totally fair thing to draw attention to.


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Once again, this:

"You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully-automatic assault rifle, without a background check, and most likely without having to show an identification card. So what are you waiting for?"

That is not true. Do you acknowledge this?


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In regards to the second quote you posted, that was already countered.

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In regards to the second quote you posted, that was already countered.


I am personally going to email the head of Al Queda for spreading misinformation. Yes they deserve to die and I hope burn in hell. Hellllll!


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I am personally going to email the head of Al Queda for spreading misinformation. Yes they deserve to die and I hope burn in hell. Hellllll!



I love all of the myths about gun control...

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I love all of the myths about gun control...


It's just alarming because some of the people who know nothing about it are the ones who have millions of people listening to them. People probably believed what people like Jimmy Kimmel say.


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It's just alarming because some of the people who know nothing about it are the ones who have millions of people listening to them. People probably believed what people like Jimmy Kimmel say.


Where these things come from is the media sensationalizing and fear-mongering the shit out of people when it comes to "mass shootings."


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Where these things come from is the media sensationalizing and fear-mongering the shit out of people when it comes to "mass shootings."


And they never mention context lol. Going by population percentage, you could argue it is not whites who commit the most mass shootings. These are "racist" facts. Like these facts attended KKK meetings.


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Where these things come from is the media sensationalizing and fear-mongering the shit out of people when it comes to "mass shootings."


I love the fact that mass shootings make up less than 1% of firearm homicides.

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Speaking of retards, it is alarming you think our nation's lead counterterrorism expert, whose job is to protect us from national security threats, knows less about the subject than a YouTuber.


Provide proof that this "counterterrorism expert" was right about being able to buy fully automatic rifles without a background check.


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Provide proof that this "counterterrorism expert" was right about being able to buy fully automatic rifles without a background check.


Indeed, I'm still waiting on that too.

Adam, where the proof?


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I haven't seen proof of fully automatic guns being purchased.

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Still curious about that proof...


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Speaking of retards, it is alarming you think our nation's lead counterterrorism expert, whose job is to protect us from national security threats, knows less about the subject than a YouTuber.


TBF, whatever youtuber probably has a lot more followers than our top government counter-terrorism expert. Things that matter.


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TBF, whatever youtuber probably has a lot more followers than our top government counter-terrorism expert. Things that matter.


Retards gonna retard. Still demanding proof of a claim I did not make, and is not central to my argument in any way. But they think they have a "gotcha" because I either defend a terrorist, or our nation's lead counterterrorism expert is wrong. Sorry, but one has nothing to do with the other. Nicholas Rasmussen is not wrong if Adam Gadahn is wrong. I am deferring to the expert opinion of the National Counterterrorism Center Director, so I do not know why I am being asked to defend the opinion of the spokesperson of al Qaeda. It is like they do not even logic.


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Retards gonna retard. Still demanding proof of a claim I did not make, and is not central to my argument in any way. But they think they have a "gotcha" because I either defend a terrorist, or our nation's lead counterterrorism expert is wrong. Sorry, but one has nothing to do with the other. Nicholas Rasmussen is not wrong if Adam Gadahn is wrong. I am deferring to the expert opinion of the National Counterterrorism Center Director, so I do not know why I am being asked to defend the opinion of the spokesperson of al Qaeda. It is like they do not even logic.


You posted a quote, did you know it was not true when you posted it?

And I acknowledged you did not say it personally and that an Al Queda spokesperson did. But again I refer to the above question: did you know it was not true when you posted it?


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