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Ha ha, YES. Now that you point it out, it's very similar, and very indicative of his speed and skill. And do you remember the hallway fight? At 1:15 he dodges a bullet point blank and at 1:51 he cuts through a bullet as it's leaving the barrel.
Have to say, if I was Sunny I might want to skip this fight. As for Ozy, well
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Based on what? Beating thugs and inmates that have no established or shown training and skill? Because we are explicitly shown and told what the Clippers are. We are shown how they train, live, operate etc. We know that they are all meant to be highly trained close-range warriors. We know that you have to spend years as a Colt before even standing a chance of becoming a Clipper. The fodder Nite Owl beat has zero such credentials.
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Pity the overall quality of the movie was not all that great IMO (let's be real, the fighting is by far the most entertaining part of the film). But yes, he's a beast, and a step up from the guys in this thread.
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Isn't it interesting how H1's new standard doesn't follow either writer's intent or visual feats. do you think that is because both would prove that the Clippers are far more skilled than the fodder in the Watchmen universe?
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Writer’s intent is not discernible when it comes to fighting skills of characters from different fiction.
Visually, those fodder clippers were way less skilled than Rorschach or Nite Owl. But visually, fighting skill is subjective (unless viewed by an actual expert).
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
^^ What H1 said right there is some of the biggest horseshit ever. Of course you can discern fighting skill between different universes using Writer's Intent. If a bunch of people are portrayed as random thugs and inmates, and display no notable training or skill, and the others are shown to go through intense training, basically live like post-apocalyptic samurai, and visually have better combat feats, then they are clearly portrayed as superior. But of course H1 will completely ignore this and say the opposite, because he will spew any crap under the sun in his attempts to skew an argument in his favour. Pretty hilarious how he will insist his interpretation of Writer's intent is stone-cold fact, even when screen evidence contradicts him. But here, when it is clear as day, he tries to label it "Not discernible". Not to mention it's highly hypocritical, considering some of his LoS arguments in the past involving Nolan Bane, when he insisted LoS training would make Bane a superior fighter in skill and speed (despite how he visually looked) than a bunch of MCU characters (i.e. using his interpretation of Writer's intent with fighting skill to make a comparison between universes).
Also, lol at that guy throwing out claims about Nite Owl beating groups of Clippers, then provides zero proof when asked, and then essentially demands a negative to said unproven claim. Typical H1 nonsense.
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That's irrelevant. Thor has thousands of years of experience and yet Batman, Cap, Elektra, etc are more skilled than him. There are countless other examples in fiction and in real life.
So that argument holds no water.
Show me a fodder clipper beating multiple thugs without getting touched.
Till then, they don't have the feats to justify that they can do that.
No it isn't. It's impossible to know if a writer thinks ANY particular character fights better than another from a totally different fictional universe.
You are purposely misunderstanding my point. We are not comparing how one writer would view characters from another universe. We are comparing writer A's intent for character A with writer B's intent for character B.
It's like you don't even know how comparisons work.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Yup. He knows exactly what we are talking about. He is being intentionally obtuse because he knows that the Clippers were portrayed as a highly trained fighting force, whereas the thugs and inmates in Watchmen were portrayed as nothing but thugs and inmates. I own the extended cut of that film. There is absolutely nothing in it to suggest any of the thugs Nite Owl beat had any comparable training to what Clippers go through.
But I suspect he will just continue to harp on about his interpretation of our point for the next 5 to 10 pages, without addressing the actual argument.
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For someone who claims to be highly intelligent and a teacher, he seems to be incapable of understanding even the most basic concepts.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
At this point, I am convinced it is intentional trolling. Because it happens far too often. Instead of actually addressing the relevant part of people's posts, he will pick a random thing to go off about over and over, stalling a thread for multiple pages in the process in some instances (recent examples being the Bucky elbow strike and the old woman from Luke Cage). He basically annoys/frustrates the other person into giving up, because they can't be bothered wasting any more time responding to him. It's why most people barely make the effort anymore.
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