I really wonder if people who say such nonsense are earnest. Or if they're trolls.
I mean, it has us worked up, and we're sure not Trumpers. Pretty much all this line of reasoning does is stifle debate, because it's (dare I say it) "triggering" to everyone who hears it (Whether they agree with it or not.)
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
because the 'success' is built on centuries of slavery oppression and segregation which still leaves marks in our society. affirmative actions and true reparations are needed to end the unfair privilege.
__________________ "Probably my worst quality is that I get very passionate about what I think is right." - Hillary Clinton.
"I don't feel no ways tired. I've been too far, from where I started from. Nobody told me that the road would be easy! I don't believe he brought me this far to leave me! "- Rev. James Cleaveland yesterday, today, and tomorrow - the fight continues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFwRkNWx-n0 love and kindness:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHp69F7vrLU
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
What you're failing to understand is that power is not needed to be racist. Anyone of any race can be racist. A white guy calling a black guy the N word is racist, and a mexican guy calling a black guy the N word is racist.
What requires power is imposing your own racist views on society as a whole. An example would be someone trying to get a law passed to make it so all blacks need to sit in the back of the bus.
And these days there isn't really any white privilege. Instead you have class privilege.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
Penalizing people who had nothing to do with slavery in order to make up for the fact slavery was a thing is silly.
On top of that,, only a very small percentage of Americans actually owned slaves.
As for affirmative action , I have a question. Let us say you had a black guy and a white guy up for the same job. The white guy is more qualified, but upon doing research it turns out his ancestors owned slaves. Who should get the job?
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
okay it looks like a lot of white ppl are flipping out when i call out their privilege. i am not saying that people of other cultures cannot be poor or say prejudiced things, but white ppl have a special privilege and place in society due to slavery and oppression and also colonialism. in their native countries this gives white people the power to turn their prejudice into racist policy that discriminates against other people. you cannot say that policy crafted to help minorities who have no power is racist because they are simply correcting the wrongs that already exist, and actually don't have much representation or ability to escape/improve their condition as whites do.
__________________ "Probably my worst quality is that I get very passionate about what I think is right." - Hillary Clinton.
"I don't feel no ways tired. I've been too far, from where I started from. Nobody told me that the road would be easy! I don't believe he brought me this far to leave me! "- Rev. James Cleaveland yesterday, today, and tomorrow - the fight continues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFwRkNWx-n0 love and kindness:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHp69F7vrLU
it would come in a combination of many different forms. of course there are cash payments but also infrastructure projects with jobs reserved for black ppl. also we need more housing and give black people the same help that white people got for mortgages. then we need much more investment into the education in black areas where the schools are struggling. these are just a few of the solutions and experts could probably list many more.
__________________ "Probably my worst quality is that I get very passionate about what I think is right." - Hillary Clinton.
"I don't feel no ways tired. I've been too far, from where I started from. Nobody told me that the road would be easy! I don't believe he brought me this far to leave me! "- Rev. James Cleaveland yesterday, today, and tomorrow - the fight continues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFwRkNWx-n0 love and kindness:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHp69F7vrLU
Nobody is flipping out over a racist pointing out their massively biased opinion. but nice try at using the "you mad" tactic.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
I don't think anyone here will argue against the fact America has a history of exploitation. The trail of tears, slavery, discrimination against immigrants.
My main issue, is chalking this up to "blame white people forever" line doesn't have any substance to it.
Who counts as white, for example? Anyone who looks it?
Is a white arab, a white hispanic, and a white person of jewish descent equally responsible for "reparations"?
And how much is "enough"? How do you set a dollar amount on this?
It's not really worth arguing against a non argument..
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
@nibedicus: no but he can be prejudiced. he doesn't have the power to oppress and discriminate in a meaningful way however and so that prejudice cannot be translated to true racism.
__________________ "Probably my worst quality is that I get very passionate about what I think is right." - Hillary Clinton.
"I don't feel no ways tired. I've been too far, from where I started from. Nobody told me that the road would be easy! I don't believe he brought me this far to leave me! "- Rev. James Cleaveland yesterday, today, and tomorrow - the fight continues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFwRkNWx-n0 love and kindness:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHp69F7vrLU
So if a white person and 3 black people were shipwrecked on a deserted Island, could the black people be racist?
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
So what you’re saying is that in a dark alley, armed with a knife, a poor black man does not hold power over a white woman?
And that if he attacked, raped and killed her solely based on the fact that she was white and he hates white ppl, this is simply discrimination and not racism?
A person of color, or a minority can have power in this country.
I can apply for a job in a predominantly Indian consulting agency, and be turned down because I m not Indian. (And for the record, this has happened enough to require legal enforcement of non Indian quota's. Including "white" non Indians.)
Power is fairly relative in this country. Silicon Valley is majority white. Hollywood,,at the top levels, is not.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
@nibedicus: not in broader society no. he still lacks power in society. however he is clearly prejudiced for singling out a white woman to attack. but this does not change the privilege of white people in society at large, who actually have the power to oppress and discriminate minorities and deny them opportunities.
__________________ "Probably my worst quality is that I get very passionate about what I think is right." - Hillary Clinton.
"I don't feel no ways tired. I've been too far, from where I started from. Nobody told me that the road would be easy! I don't believe he brought me this far to leave me! "- Rev. James Cleaveland yesterday, today, and tomorrow - the fight continues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFwRkNWx-n0 love and kindness:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHp69F7vrLU
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