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Damborgson
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Originally posted by Sin I AM
not an amp


It says "upgrade" , how much is anyone's guess but it does incline me to think his power has been increased.


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Tbf Mangog was more dangerous than Odin and the Phoenix Force.

So Hulk is basically beyond abstract.


Called it.

Anyway, isn't this the same book where Thor/Cho/Herc/Vision were all unable to stop a measly meteor?

I'm with Sin here. Battles alone are not a good gauge.


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Originally posted by Sin I AM
not an amp


What is it?


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What is it?


Seriously? Avengers AI came out in 2013. The exact scene that Hulkster quoted was in the the first issue of that series. Visions solo came out in late 2015 and he didnt fight the avengers till late 2016. Did you read the issue? Hulkster posted an old ass scan. He was NOT AMPED.


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Sin, you're not making one bit of sense.


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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Called it.

Anyway, isn't this the same book where Thor/Cho/Herc/Vision were all unable to stop a measly meteor?

I'm with Sin here. Battles alone are not a good gauge.


exactly. people are bragging about Hulk beating a second rate Rulk and and tossing aside Jane Thor, Herc etc when Vision actually koed Jane Thor, Strange, Stark, Tchalla, 2 spidermen, Ms Marvel, Captain Marvel, Kid Nova and Scarlet Witch.

if i use the same faulty logic then Vision Greater than Thor > Mangog> Odin


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so what exactly was the context behind the zeus fight again...?


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so what exactly was the context behind the zeus fight again...?


He went there to give his life to Zeus in exchange for his family freedom.


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Sin, you're not making one bit of sense.


u lack basic comprehension skill. Vision upgraded in 2013. He fought the Avengers in 2016. Its a 3 year old upgrade. Not an amp. I cant make it anymore clearer


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so yur saying he didn't fight? that he COULD have won that fight?


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u lack basic comprehension skill. Vision upgraded in 2013. He fought the Avengers in 2016. Its a 3 year old upgrade. Not an amp. I cant make it anymore clearer


What I don't understand is the scan you didn't provide showing us he lost said "upgrade". It's like saying Green Scar became less powerful due to the time he was in possession of said power. Come on Sin.


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so yur saying he didn't fight? that he COULD have won that fight?


Zeus would've still beat him but that fight can not be taken with anything close to serious when again, Zeus was punching on a man that came there to die anyway. Hell, Hulk even mentioned before the fight started that he needed Zeus help. Zeus wife then reads Hulk mind and realized Hulk came there to give his life.

The only reason I know Hulk would have still gotten destroyed is because of Pak. Pak viewed Zeus as GOD himself and basically said that no one on earth would have withstood the beating Hulk did as good as he did. Pak always respected Zeus and put him on the highest of pedestals, so even comparing Pak version of Zeus to Aaron version of Odin is laughable...

Here is a summary of his interview.

http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/08242011news1.html


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Originally posted by Damborgson
Okay...after reading the izsue, hulk definitely stood up to Jane better than Mangog did. But Mangog also chewed the arm off the destroyer, beat weak Odin, stomped Asgard, stomped War Thor, etc. He doesn't have the wins under his belt at the moment to suggest he's capable of winning.

That said, Hulk is operating at pretty high levels.

Hulk always does well against groups.

Of the elite strongmen he's head of the class, but I do believe that are a few things that always factors in these showings of his though.
I tend to think they hold back more(consciously/subconsciously) often than not when ganging on Hulk because they know he's still hero, but has issues controlling his rage.

Kinda reminds me of Bladam in his stint as a hero.


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so what exactly was the context behind the zeus fight again...?
Hulk went to fight Zeus knowing he’d get shit stomped, but he still was up for the fight. He only offered himself up as a sacrifice to save his friends when Zeus was caving his head in.

Don’t fall for carvers lies.


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laughing out loud i know exactly how that fight went down. i just like to see things from carv's pov sometimes. makes me feel better about myself. thumb up


jk carv....


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laughing out loud i know exactly how that fight went down. i just like to see things from carv's pov sometimes. makes me feel better about myself. thumb up


jk carv....
laughing out loud


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What I don't understand is the scan you didn't provide showing us he lost said "upgrade". It's like saying Green Scar became less powerful due to the time he was in possession of said power. Come on Sin.


its not an amp guy. if superman sundips 2 years ago and fights doomsday today no1 will say he was amped. Plus hes been destroyed and rebuilt numerous times. Noone ever said he was amped. Iron Lad killed him so did She-Hulk, Grim Reaper, etc. Avengers AI was composed of thousands of nanobots, the there was Iron Lad Vision, then classic.

when heroes go rogue and fight other heroes the one-side ALWAYS holds back. its a common Hulk trope, every instance of hulk rampaging the #1 go to is to reason with "banner". u still fail to grasp basic context


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Tbf, Hal has been amped since 1959.


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Tbf, Hal has been amped since 1959.

hal is a god tho, except against bricks 😎


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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hulk always does well against groups.

Of the elite strongmen he's head of the class, but I do believe that are a few things that always factors in these showings of his though.
I tend to think they hold back more(consciously/subconsciously) often than not when ganging on Hulk because they know he's still hero, but has issues controlling his rage.

Kinda reminds me of Bladam in his stint as a hero.


Agreed too. Team syndrome is pretty bad at times, Hulk benefits quite a bit.


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