“Let me thank the Koch Brothers,” said Sanders on a recorded video, “of all people, for sponsoring a study that shows that Medicare-for-all would save the American people $2 trillion dollars over a ten year period.
“It shows that Medicare for All is actually much more, is actually much cheaper than the current system we that pay right now,” said Ocasio-Cortez in another video Tapper aired.
“Is that true?” asked Tapper rhetorically. “Did a study funded by the Koch Brothers indicate that Medicare for All would actually save the U.S. government trillions of dollars?”
“No, it’s not true, at least not according to the author of the study,” he said.
Tapper goes on to show how Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez made a misleading claim based on assumptions made by Sanders, and not as a conclusion of the study funded by the Koch Brothers.
“That study’s author says that that $2 trillion drop is not actually his conclusion,” Tapper added, “he said that’s based on assumptions made by Senator Sanders.”
“It is likely that the actual cost of [Medicare-for-all] would be substantially greater than these estimates,” wrote Charles Blahous of the Mercatus Center, “which assume significant administrative and drug cost savings under the plan, and also assume that health care providers operating under [Medicare-for-all] will be reimbursed at rates more than 40 percent lower than those currently paid by private health insurance.”
womp womp.
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And this is CNN fact checking them. It's weird. They'd probably have loved to see Bernie burn the Koch Brothers.
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Initial claim:
"Medicare-for-all would cost x, while the current system costs y. x < y."
Now:
"But there's all sorts of shit that we didn't mention previously that could potentially increase the costs of x, when we should have factored that in for both x and y!"
CNN didn't really do Sanders many favors during the primaries. They focused their airtime propping Clinton, the establishment candidate, for the Democratic presidential nomination, maintaining the status quo.
And I think they should get those things. And I think they should be taken care of even better than they already are, too. Tricare needs to go away with medicare being expanded for all.
No, I'm saying you can't blame Sanders for drawing a conclusion based off their study on the total cost of Medicare-for-all, when they omitted other factors which could potentially affect the total cost.
Seems more like Bernie didn't fully understand what was being told.
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I'm fine with it too, personally, I think even more of our over-bloated defense budget should be spent directly on our service personal. eg There's really no excuse why we have homeless vets
Just funny how socialist an institution it is, considering some people's views.
No time for a super-post featuring my complete thoughts, but here's an op-ed article which pretty much echoes my thoughts on the matter of the Mercatus Center's addendum to their study and CNN's Jake Tapper's misrepresentation of Sander's statements Medicare-for-all plan. As I've said before, I think their study backfired on them, so now they're backpedaling and playing damage control...
...but first, here's Jake Tapper admitting he ****ed up and misrepresented Sander's claims:
Jesus these fact checkers can't be trusted either.
These are the same people who saying "Trump lied 3,000 times".
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"Tapper rejected these criticisms initially but as of Sunday afternoon has conceded the video is wrong and promised that it will be corrected soon."
Yeah, at least he can admit he is wrong after he is shown the evidence and initially denies the evidence and then acknowledges it is wrong. What a guy.
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Yeah, admitting you're wrong when evidence is given and you accept it as truth is the proper thing to do. Weird how you have one standard for the people you dislike and another for the people you love. eg Since you brought up Trump in this thread, he lies constantly and doubles down on the lies when called out, you almost never critique that, but here you are shitting on Tapper for admitting he was wrong.
Trump just lets whatever dumb shit floats into his mind fly out of his mouth.
Jake Tapper didn't just randomly do this lol. He made a friggin video about it. Which would have involved research, etc.
Then when called on it he first refused. Then admitted he was wrong.
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IOW: You'll continue to make excuses for Trump's lies (that's what they are, lies. Period.) and doubling down on said lies, while everyone else is a shitlord, even if they admit they got something wrong.
I'm not excusing it. I am saying there is a difference in the magnitude of the lie. Tapper had people looking into this, researching it, and didn't know he was essentially reporting fake news?
That's more alarming to me than Trump tweeting whatever dumb shit comes into his head.
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IIRC, CNN has a track-record of doing this. This is not a good thing.
They do something wrong, then say "whoops, we were wrong." When they knew they were wrong the whole time and only admit they are wrong when it is too obvious.
It's like this:
Do dishonest thing x. On purpose. Because political agenda.
Backlash y happens.
y becomes severe. y becomes z.
Admit x was wrong due to z.
Get pats on the back for admitting x was wrong due to z.
Repeat over and over.
After a while, you have to stop saying, "Wow, they are so honest." No, they are even more dishonest than they appear.
Lol they edited footage of Trump feeding fish for christs sake.
Then there was that whole "make it seem like a woman is calling for peace when she was calling for the riots to be taken to the suburbs" schtick lol.
They are always super sorry...when they get called out. Tragic, just tragic.
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