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abhilegend
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Originally posted by Damborgson
It means power enough, not only power enough thumb up

A flame thrower is "power enough " to light a cigarette , but not only enough to light a cigarette.


laughing out loud

Seriously? Power enough to destroy planetoids but somehow its more than that? Based on what exactly?
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He was already unconscious, do I have to post the scans?


The missile scene you mean?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CZfT8vCy...Ic42/RCO007.jpg

Thor was only hit by the Shockwave, not the detonation as made clear.


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I always liked the Supergirl vs Mary Marvel fight in Final Crisis.

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Made even better by the fact that Grant Morrison stated that the new gods were like a pantheon of Galactus level beings of power.

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"The first god character Jack Kirby did, really, on that scale, was Galactus in the Marvel U. So for me, it was simple, look at the threat created by one Galactus appearance on Earth and imagine what would happen if an entire pantheon of these guys showed up, all actively evil. Imagine the scale and the power of just one creature capable of inspiring entire religions, then add more, each more cruel, perverse or demonic than the last. That's the set-up.
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. So that was the first basic idea behind 'Final Crisis.' What would happen if 10 beings with the powers of a Galactus turned up and really decided to **** the world up?


https://www.cbr.com/all-star-grant-...i-final-crisis/

And showed it by New Gods defeating and overthrowing Lords of Order.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

Seriously? Power enough to destroy planetoids but somehow its more than that? Based on what exactly?

The missile scene you mean?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CZfT8vCy...Ic42/RCO007.jpg

Thor was only hit by the Shockwave, not the detonation as made clear.


Based on the English language Abhi laughing out loud

I cant break this down more for you, what else do you need to hear ?

Also yes, that's what I was getting at, but you said the bomb knocked him out, he was already unconscious.


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Originally posted by Damborgson
Based on the English language Abhi laughing out loud

I cant break this down more for you, what else do you need to hear ?


Yes, please go ahead.
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Also yes, that's what I was getting at, but you said the bomb knocked him out, he was already unconscious.


I said he was almost killed.


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Yes, please go ahead.

I said he was almost killed.


Thats not a relevant response to what I posted. 😅

Yes, while passed out, so what then ?? That's not an indication of not being able to take the blast.


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Thats not a relevant response to what I posted. 😅


I'm guessing you don't have anything to say and are just spamming now.
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Yes, while passed out, so what then ?? That's not an indication of not being able to take the blast.


His durability doesn't decrease if he is passed out.


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To play devil's advocate here, Supergirl defeated Ultraman several times, although she had help from Powergirl. That implies she's at least half as physically powerful as Superman himself (it takes two to defeat someone equal to Supes).

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Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm guessing you don't have anything to say and are just spamming now.

His durability doesn't decrease if he is passed out.


No, you just don't know how to speak English Abhi. I asked if you needed clarification on something and you said "show me then". Lol...

Actually, yes it does. The difference between bracing and non bracing is lethal:

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comic example.

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Real world example.


If you have any decency, admit that your point is lost and you don't have the example you want. You couldn't prove the ego point and you couldn't prove the bomb point. Go home already.


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Originally posted by Damborgson
No, you just don't know how to speak English Abhi. I asked if you needed clarification on something and you said "show me then". Lol...


You were about to tell us how "Power enough to destroy nearby planetoids" is somehow more than that, eh? Go for it.
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Actually, yes it does. The difference between bracing and non bracing is lethal:

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comic example.

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Real world example.


Not always, Superman survived destruction of source wall better due to being koed.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/De...ssue-8?id=46675

It wasn't implied that Thor was near death due to being koed.

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If you have any decency, admit that your point is lost and you don't have the example you want. You couldn't prove the ego point and you couldn't prove the bomb point. Go home already.


This is irony at its best. Learning lessons from ragey, eh?

Why don't you explain us how "power enough to destroy nearby planetoids" is more powerful than what's said in the comic?


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Originally posted by abhilegend
You were about to tell us how "Power enough to destroy nearby planetoids" is somehow more than that, eh? Go for it.

Not always, Superman survived destruction of source wall better due to being koed.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/De...ssue-8?id=46675

It wasn't implied that Thor was near death due to being koed.



This is irony at its best. Learning lessons from ragey, eh?

Why don't you explain us how "power enough to destroy nearby planetoids" is more powerful than what's said in the comic?


Why are you using the pronoun "us"? Do you feel like you need backup?

But sure:

The word "enough" means sufficient, or what's required.

A nuke should be enough to crush a building.

A flame thrower is enough to light a campfire.

And ego is enough to crush planetoids.

That doesn't mean "just" enough, because "just" which you said was there, but wasn't, is an adverb necessary for your point. It's not there. So you're wrong.

Explained for you, and "us" whoever that may be.

Even then, it wasn't a single planetoid, it was multiple planetoids which already puts it far above whatever lowballing you're trying to pull off.

No, it's pretty much always.

https://static.comicvine.com/upload..._smash_thor.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...vs_superman.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...60694-25672.jpg

Across 3 different universes, for your pleasure.

And you're going to need to point at what you're talking about, I read the issue and I don't know what you're talking about.


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Originally posted by Damborgson
Why are you using the pronoun "us"? Do you feel like you need backup?

But sure:

The word "enough" means sufficient, or what's required.

A nuke should be enough to crush a building.

A flame thrower is enough to light a campfire.

And ego is enough to crush planetoids.


But in all these scenarios, the nuke or flame thrower do more than what you informed.

When Ego blasted outwards, only the nearby planetoids were destroyed and the rest of the planetoids were intact.

From Thor 161.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xTLvBYE5...Ic42/RCO002.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-h2V5opGC...Ic42/RCO003.jpg

So Ego may have power to do more than that, but the blast which koed Thor was only powerful enough to destroy nearby planetoids and no amount of "No limit fallacy" is going to change that.

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That doesn't mean "just" enough, because "just" which you said was there, but wasn't, is an adverb necessary for your point. It's not there. So you're wrong.

Explained for you, and "us" whoever that may be.


This is again irony at its best, you proved me wrong by "speculating" that Ego may have used more power than destroy planetoids by applying false analogies and not showing a single proof. I however have shown that he only used power enough to destroy planetoids and other celestial objects were intact but I'm the one wrong here?

Thorbags, never change.
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Even then, it wasn't a single planetoid, it was multiple planetoids which already puts it far above whatever lowballing you're trying to pull off.

No, it's pretty much always.

https://static.comicvine.com/upload..._smash_thor.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...vs_superman.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...60694-25672.jpg

Across 3 different universes, for your pleasure.


Congrats, you've shown its easier to ko someone when surprised. Now show us that after passing out someone is easier to kill.

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Wait, Zod should have easily killed Diana and Clark because they were both koed, right?

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And you're going to need to point at what you're talking about, I read the issue and I don't know what you're talking about.


There's a lot of things you are incapable of comprehending it seems.


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The largest planetoid (aka asteroid) is called Ceres. It is about one-quarter the size of the moon, so Thor being nearly killed by it is still not impressive compared to other heralds. And average sized asteroids are country sized, comparable to being hit by Spain or Turkey, so even Byrne era Superman's strength is enough to nearly kill Thor

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I don't know why ABHI and the guy above me are consistently talking about Thor and a planet destroying attack when Superman only encounter since New 52 against a Planetaty attack is this...

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https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa...exploding+3.jpg

The shockwaves, he was knocked the F out. At least Thor was hit by the attack that is being discussed. This topic needs to be changed, immediately.


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I don't know why ABHI and the guy above me are consistently talking about Thor and a planet destroying attack when Superman only encounter since New 52 against a Planetaty attack is this...

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...018+%281%29.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...018+%282%29.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...018+%283%29.jpg
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa...exploding+3.jpg

The shockwaves, he was knocked the F out. At least Thor was hit by the attack that is being discussed. This topic needs to be changed, immediately.

Leave Carter to omit the fact that Superman was weakened by kryptonite radiation earlier.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MgeySs84...1600/RCO003.jpg

Then there is this.

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For those who haven't seen it, Superman tanks a planet-busting detonation at ground zero entirely unscathed:
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...The sheer casualness of that feat is worthy of the Silver Age, tbh.


The planet explodes in the middle of the sentence and not even his hair is mussed.


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Leave Carter to omit the fact that Superman was weakened by kryptonite radiation earlier.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MgeySs84...1600/RCO003.jpg

Then there is this.



The planet explodes in the middle of the sentence and not even his hair is mussed.


Why would I point that out when the machine "mimicked" Kryptonite and it was meant to hurt him, not weaken him. I see no need in mentioning that.

The scene you posted is highly debatable. The day Galan posted those scans people debated against it. He was long gone before that blast touched him. I know your opinion differs but whatever. I've learned a long time ago there is no changing your mind, no matter what is presented, but, again, the blast didn't touch him.


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First scene during the explosion we see the mid point of the planet exploding. Superman could have been on the upper or bottom end of the planet, who knows. By the time the entire planet exploded, Superman was far away from it.


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Congrats, you've shown its easier to ko someone when surprised. Now show us that after passing out someone is easier to kill.

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Wait, Zod should have easily killed Diana and Clark because they were both koed, right?


What about the infamous neck snap, MoS style? big grin


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First scene during the explosion we see the mid point of the planet exploding. Superman could have been on the upper or bottom end of the planet, who knows. By the time the entire planet exploded, Superman was far away from it.

Superman was in the middle of the sentence when the planet explodes, there is no indication he flew away in the middle.


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What about the infamous neck snap, MoS style? big grin

Kryptonians are notoriously hard to kill by that tactic.


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Kryptonians are notoriously hard to kill by that tactic.


They heal from it or their necks just won't snap?


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