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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Scizard
and Rey was shown to be ~ atleast in TLJ and she got ragdolled so yeah maybe Dooku gets ragdolled even.
Rey wasnt even Bens equal in TROS after a year of training. Let alone as of TLJ.
Jan 7th, 2021 10:22 AM
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The sequel trilogy is so bad, my god.... ergo Dooku wins.
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Jan 7th, 2021 12:32 PM
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Even accepting the quote, I dunno man, Dooku with his Saber against a crippled Sidious with no weapon.. Feel like Dookus stock has gone down a lot over the years for people to still pick the crippled Sidious clone.
Jan 7th, 2021 01:34 PM
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Snoke murders him.
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Jan 7th, 2021 02:46 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
Even accepting the quote, I dunno man, Dooku with his Saber against a crippled Sidious with no weapon.. Feel like Dookus stock has gone down a lot over the years for people to still pick the crippled Sidious clone.
ESB Palpatine didn't need a saber to casually rape Vader(who is >> Dooku across the board) with the Force alone.
So if Snoke is Palpatine level, I'm really not sure why you think a saber is the deciding factor here?
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Jan 7th, 2021 03:41 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
ESB Palpatine didn't need a saber to casually rape Vader(who is >> Dooku across the board) with the Force alone.
Oh.. Im not caught up on the post ESB Star Wars comics.
That changes things.
Jan 7th, 2021 03:44 PM
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Jan 7th, 2021 03:46 PM
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Jeez thats a whole other level.
Although it does make it even less likely (to me) to believe Luke was aware of Sidious being THAT Powerful from his encounter with him in ROTJ.
I do like that though. Makes Vaders line to Luke in ROTJ “you don’t know the power of the Dark Side. I MUST Obey my Master” a lot more meaningful.
Jan 7th, 2021 03:53 PM
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Pure Sidious wank, a succession of cheap shots that would have no relevance in an actual serious match, he's also healthier than Snoke so there is no telling whether the broken copycat is any good at keeping that performance for long
I still think Dooku mostly takes the dive though
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Jan 7th, 2021 03:57 PM
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I mean, cripple or not Snoke is still capable of duplicating the same subtle hand gestures(and lightning) that Palpatine used to rape Vader there... Doesn't exactly require high level acrobatics to do that, lol.
Granted you could argue that Vader was emotionally compromised to some extent, but you could also argue that Palpatine was not trying to kill him(and was therefore holding back.) So yeah...
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Jan 7th, 2021 04:04 PM
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Was completely one sided. Theres no getting around that.
But so much for Vader being the Strongest Sith quote!
I dont mind Snoke having that power since hes a clone of Palps. But then how would Palps control him? The guy didnt even like Dooku training Ventress for their combined potential. But hes cool making a being of equal power to him? That doesnt make sense.
I think Luke might have misread that.
Edit: Also it bodes well for Reys potential
Jan 7th, 2021 04:14 PM
Galan007
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Because Palpatine himself became vastly more powerful than he was during ESB/RotJ... Especially if you believe he was channeling the power of all the Sith before him during RoS.
Compared to that, Snoke would have been small fries.
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Jan 7th, 2021 04:17 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Because Palpatine himself became vastly more powerful than he was during ESB/RotJ... Especially if you believe he was channeling the power of all the Sith before him during RoS.
Compared to that, Snoke would have been small fries.
Depends when he made Snoke, and when he gained the power of all the Sith.
But With ROTJ Sidious power and knowledge of the Force he could catch up pretty fast.
But I suppose he could always take Snoke in Sabers.
Jan 7th, 2021 04:26 PM
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SW.com states that Palpatine was more powerful than Snoke.
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Jan 7th, 2021 04:33 PM
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SW.com has always been pretty reliable.
Jan 7th, 2021 04:37 PM
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Did Sidious have only a fraction of his power in Snoke?
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Snoke ragdolls
Jan 7th, 2021 05:48 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Did Sidious have only a fraction of his power in Snoke?
Snoke was an independent being -- a clone "strandcast". His power wasn't directly connected to Palapatine's.
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Jan 7th, 2021 10:59 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Snoke was an independent being -- a clone "strandcast". His power wasn't directly connected to Palapatine's.
Oh, so then why are people comparing him to TROS Sidious?
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Jan 7th, 2021 11:12 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Oh, so then why are people comparing him to TROS Sidious?
They are comparing him to ROTJ Sidious due to a note on his power in Lukes journal.
Just depends if Luke was fully aware of Palpatines full power though.
Aside from that Other reason to compare them is because hes a clone of Palpatine.
Jan 7th, 2021 11:18 PM
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