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DarkSaint85
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I talked about that years ago. More than 12 years ago. I stated that it was a contradiction to absorb kinetic energy but at the same time bounce with almost no loss of momentum.

Yup we all knew that vibranium is not an element in marvel. Basically common sense.

Oh sorry, did I say Marvel didn't call it an element? My bad, they totally do:

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And there was a time it had a flaw, during that "vibranium cancer" arc.

Other than fixing said flaw and introducing uru to the mix much-much later, I don't recall any other upgrades.

Zop, tell us more.

Those were the upgrades I was referring to big grin

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That's because it violates the laws of physics

It doesn't violate the laws of physics. It just illogical to us.
It can be written away as the shield responds to the mental commands of its possessor.

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Oh sorry, did I say Marvel didn't call it an element? My bad, they totally do:

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Figurative language or element has more than one meaning (i.e ingredient)

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Prove it was figurative. Writer intent was that it was an element.

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It doesn't violate the laws of physics. It just illogical to us.
It can be written away as the shield responds to the mental commands of its possessor.

Prove that it responds to mental commands

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The better you handle it the better it responds.

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It wasnt magic directly that damaged it but power (force). Serpent used strength that he obtained from magical means. Thor used force that he obtained from magical means.

We've already covered this with scans. The Serpent hit it with a magical attack.

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That's his language idiot. All the heralds spoke that language. Doesn't mean anything. Shield is not weak to magic.

All the "heralds", lol? You dumb fuck.

It means everything when there is the art to support it.

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Lmao I suddenly wondered about what the shield's PAINT was made of.

The paint is likely oxidized adamantium, different layers of oxidations reflects different colors due to superposition cancellation of the reflect light. So no outer coating or coloring is necessary.

This is done to titanium for aesthetic purposes.

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This is why you have no life, Astner.

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The paint is likely oxidized adamantium, different layers of oxidations reflects different colors due to superposition cancellation of the reflect light. So no outer coating or coloring is necessary.

This is done to titanium for aesthetic purposes.

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According to the handbooks, it's titanium nitride.

Also, do you think Adamantium oxide exists?

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All the "heralds", lol? You dumb fuck.

It means everything when there is the art to support it.

All his heralds. Is that better? That's the language they spoke (old Viking language).

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This is why you have no life, Astner.

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According to the handbooks, it's titanium nitride.

Titanium-nitride is yellow.

There are variations like titanium-aluminium-nitride which is bronze, and titanium-carbon-nitride which is black. But that's it, and these substances are nowhere near indestructible.

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Also, do you think Adamantium oxide exists?

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According to the handbooks, it's titanium nitride.

Also, do you think Adamantium oxide exists?

If Adamantium can be combined chemically to [mutant] bone, there's no reason to believe it couldn't be chemically combined with oxygen. Astner's logic is sound, we're also talking about fiction after all.

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Wouldn�t the Adamantium make the paint 🎨 equal to its pressure as well as vibranium doing the same?

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Titanium-nitride is yellow.

There are variations like titanium-aluminium-nitride which is bronze, and titanium-carbon-nitride which is black. But that's it, and these substances are nowhere near indestructible.

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Indeed, it's more accurately 'red/white/blue enamel MIXED with titanium nitride'. Though just to point out one COULD get differing (limited) colours of titanium nitride.

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But then, this thread is created by the guy who says Adamantium and Cap's shield and vibranium obeys the laws of physics, so....

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Prove that it responds to mental commands

So DS is now becoming a troll?

"It can be written away" means possibility for future writing or a retconn. Isnt that common sense what those words meant?

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Prove it was figurative. Writer intent was that it was an element.

There are multiple definitions of the word element. The most used (or standard definition) has it to mean "part of something" like an ingredient. The onus is on you to prove that the writer meant the literal chemistry definition and not the standard definition since that is what you are claiming.

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Astner
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Indeed, it's more accurately 'red/white/blue enamel MIXED with titanium nitride'. Though just to point out one COULD get differing (limited) colours of titanium nitride.

The compound is yellow, and it's applied in very thin layers (2-4 μm) through a process known as PVD (physical vapor despoliation), so I'm not sure how much pigments you can fit in there without compromising the integrity of the coating, and yellow is a very difficult color to change to blue or red with pigments.

There are however other similar compounds that have different colors, the composition of which are company secrets.

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So it's not impossible to get these colors through PVD-coatings with similar or greater hardness. But it wouldn't be titanium-nitrite.

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But then, this thread is created by the guy who says Adamantium and Cap's shield and vibranium obeys the laws of physics, so....

The reason I suggested an oxide is because it's generally harder and more corrosion resistant. As opposed to PVD coatings which break at high-speed impacts.

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