Owen's control over matter has always been well above cosmic characters like Galactus. His ability to manipulate matter is nearly as effective over matter as magic is, if not on par. Unless of course you believe that a Sky Father level power like the Serpent is on par with a guy that was capable of doing battle with the Beyonder at his most powerful?
As I mentioned, Kulan Gath just bit a chunk out of the shield during the latest issue of the Savage Avengers, which descrbed him to be omnipotent but not omniscient. Kulan Gath is a magical being.
To be fair, Owen deconstructed the shield in Avengers #215 (1982): https://ibb.co/2Z9FfSz
*At the time, Owen's abilities were [extremely] limited by his own self-imposed, subconscious limitations.
A few years later, during Secret Wars #11 (1985), Doom would remove Owen's mental blocks, which allowed him to utilize the full breadth of his power: https://ibb.co/Hqb6MLg
Point being, Owen wasn't yet at his SWII/Beyonder-contending levels when he mucked with the shield... And lip-service aside, I don't recall Owen preforming any feats that were above the Skyfather tier before Doom unlocked him.
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The power has always been inside him, even if he didn't fully realize it.
Fun fact, Gambit has the same self-imposed limits regarding the organic matter. But unlike with Owen, unlocking his potential was only temporary.
Better question... was Owen the one who misplaced that one molecule of Cap's shield when recreating it, which many years later caused the vibranium cancer story arc? Or we don't really know?
Indeed the power itself was always there, but it wasn't always fully accessible to Owen due to his own self-imposed mental limitations. My point was only that the Owen who deconstructed the shield was orders of magnitude weaker than he became after Doom removed the blocks -- IOW, SWII Owen >>>>>>>>>> Avengers #215 Owen. That's a factoid that I don't think Stoic took into consideration in his post.
We don't really know what level pre-SW-unlock Owen was operating at, but I don't recall him doing anything above the Skyfather tier until after Doom jailbroke him.
Owen's fragile mental state has always been an issue for him -- even after Doom's unlock: https://ibb.co/3km08Nh
^ Owen preformed that feat in SW #12: https://ibb.co/gTJjC8B
...So after Doom removed his mental blocks.
As mentioned: lip-service aside, I am fairly certain that Owen never preformed any feats above the Skyfather tier prior to Doom's unlock in SW #11. He has always been touted to have massive potential ever since his first appearance in 1963, but potential power =/= actualized power... Especially when we're talking about a guy whose actualized power at any given time is fully dependent on his mental state.
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Those mental blocks were only in play when dealing with organic life forms. That excludes his control over the molecules that compose the shield. Or, am I missing something?
Owen's mental blocks inhibited his power across the board.
Prior to the unlock, Owen didn't realize that he could manipulate organic molecules... Or recreate/reignite all the stars in a galaxy... Or repair multiversal damage... Or unleash blasts that could destroy billions of dimensions. Etc.
The unlock essentially took Owen from a second-rate goon that the F4 could handle, to a being who could rival Beyonder.
As mentioned above: Owen's actualized power at any given time has always been fully dependent on his mental state.
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Be that as it may, back in those days power on Galactus' level wouldn't have destroyed that shield, and Galactus has nearly always been portrayed to be superior to Sky Fathers. My stance remains that the shield has been vulnerable to magical attacks, or magical characters. Non magical attacks that dismantled it came by way of molecular manipulation, or powers that ranged well beyond low to mid Cosmic characters on Galactus' level.
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