Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
this is stupid you seriously think, it was because he left wolverine there, spidey could hav had his way with him. 🙂Spiderman can dodge ocks tentacles, but not stupid claws, smell the bs there, now tell me about his chances with namor again🙂
stupid is right..that's the equivolent of saying...if wolverine got a free shot to the face on spiderman with his claws while spiderman wasn't fighting back to begin with..he could have easily had his way with him...😂 😂 😂 🙄 pfft..
wolvie vs. namor....wolvie 6 or 7 out of 10...
Originally posted by jinzin
you obviously haven't read the book..mister you usually bring up good points in great posts..but this however isn't one of them...in that "fight" wolverine gets blasted accross a damned rooftop by an omega level mutant....then we goes back over to the mutant and spiderman and the little kid blasts him away AGAIN...wolverine gets pissed and lunges forward...spidey gets scared and retreats down into an alley.....when wolverine jumps off the building he's trying to explain how much of a threat the kid really is...and that spiderman needs to get out of the way...he wasn't even trying to have a conflict with spiderman but was trying to nail the dangerous high schooler....spiderman basically starts webbing him up in mid sentence...EVEN THEN when wolverine's had enough he gets himself out of it with enough ease...he just has to hurt himself to do it.....HELL even IF he was ready to be webbed by spidey...he's right in front of the guy in an alley....alleys don't exactly provide the best amount of room for maneuverability do they???? sorry man but this was about the most circumstantial encounters between the two to date and people keep posting the pic of webbed up wolvie up.....yet call me selective in my pics when I show entire fights from beginning to end......yeah reeeeeealllll selective guys...🙄
I noticed that you yourself have no problem posting picture after picture of Spider-man being downplayed ( and very obviously I might add) by abilities that are notably inferior to his.
When Wolverine is matching Spider-man in speed and maneuverability it is just like when he matches the hulk in durability. ( actually Namor has knocked the hulk many miles with a blow but Wolverine has SURPASSED that level of WEAKNESS displayed by the HULK) 🙄
Cmon man as much as I like debating this with you, you're very guilty of doing the same thing I just did.... focusing on the circumstancial evidence to support your argument. ( Not all of your arguments but this one in particular) As much as I like Wolverine and agree with you in that he is a VERY worthy adversary, I am basing my argument that Spider-man is his SUPERIOR in ONE ON ONE battle on the fact that Spider-man has handled tougher opponents than Wolverine on a consistent basis...
And WITHOUT GOING BERSERKER!!
Wolverine might match EVERYONE in Marvel in the comics and Spider-man as well.....Buuuut ( you knew that was coming 😆 ) don't forget that you ARE supposed to seperate what the characters have done within their GIVEN limits. NO NO NO NO NO they do NOT have unlimited ability HERE!!
They DO have unlimited ability in the COMICS but we are supposed to draw a line in order to come up with an outcome that is BIAS FREE!
YOU may not be bised at all (and I don't think that you are personally) but you'd be crazy to say that NONE of the writers and artists are. If not WHY IN THE HELL IS WOLVERINE FARING AS WELL 😱 AS THE HULK
😱 AGAINST NAMOR!?!? 🤨
Please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm basing this on what I've read here for I've never read that comic myself.
The point I'm trying to make is that Wolverine is given the same ability Spider-man was given when he beat Firelord ( the ability to hang no matter what) but on such a regular basis it's almost expected.
Could he fly like Goku if he trains long enough? NO, so there ain't enough training in 616 to let him leap 3 stories if he ain't benching over 900 pounds!!!
NUFF SAID!
but much love bro... 😮💨
ludicrious, spiderman webbed up wolverine and left, poor cash cow...... 🙁
explain where he would get the leverage to "break" handcuffs with his hands behind him and his wrists facing up. you cant 🙂
wolverine vs. namor 7/10, in your world, where namor was just circumsiced.
speaking of circumcision, i must eat, all this talk of hurting makes me hungry 🙂
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
ludicrious, spiderman webbed up wolverine and left, poor cash cow...... 🙁
explain where he would get the leverage to "break" handcuffs with his hands behind him and his wrists facing up. you cant 🙂wolverine vs. namor 7/10, in your world, where namor was just circumsiced.
speaking of circumcision, i must eat, all this talk of hurting makes me hungry 🙂
i don't need to it's comics..he's done it.... a few times...nuff said...
in my world? more like in marvel universe...where IT HAPPENED......
Mister I don't agree with how they made wolverine beat namor in new invaders I explained that already..I do however agree with the end result which I've also explained...ON LAND...I simply don't think namor can beat wolverine...In water however is a different story...
as far as spiderman vs. firelord I thought that was more or less acceptable...it was unlikely but it was still possible given the circumstances that spidey had....i'll give you a REAL response to this whole fight later...when I can give you the response you deserve (that's meant as more of a compliment so don't think I'm coming back to tear into you..lol)
Originally posted by The MISTER
True enough bro, this is really the first time that I have employed the tactic of using a DRAWING that is circumstancial to support my argument. The fact of the matter is there aren't many if any drawings that aren't CIRCUMSTANCIAL!!I noticed that you yourself have no problem posting picture after picture of Spider-man being downplayed ( and very obviously I might add) by abilities that are notably inferior to his.
When Wolverine is matching Spider-man in speed and maneuverability it is just like when he matches the hulk in durability. ( actually Namor has knocked the hulk many miles with a blow but Wolverine has SURPASSED that level of WEAKNESS displayed by the HULK) 🙄
Cmon man as much as I like debating this with you, you're very guilty of doing the same thing I just did.... focusing on the circumstancial evidence to support your argument. ( Not all of your arguments but this one in particular) As much as I like Wolverine and agree with you in that he is a VERY worthy adversary, I am basing my argument that Spider-man is his SUPERIOR in ONE ON ONE battle on the fact that Spider-man has handled tougher opponents than Wolverine on a consistent basis...
And WITHOUT GOING BERSERKER!!
Wolverine might match EVERYONE in Marvel in the comics and Spider-man as well.....Buuuut ( you knew that was coming 😆 ) don't forget that you ARE supposed to seperate what the characters have done within their GIVEN limits. NO NO NO NO NO they do NOT have unlimited ability HERE!!
They DO have unlimited ability in the COMICS but we are supposed to draw a line in order to come up with an outcome that is BIAS FREE!
YOU may not be bised at all (and I don't think that you are personally) but you'd be crazy to say that NONE of the writers and artists are. If not WHY IN THE HELL IS WOLVERINE FARING AS WELL 😱 AS THE HULK
😱 AGAINST NAMOR!?!? 🤨Please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm basing this on what I've read here for I've never read that comic myself.
The point I'm trying to make is that Wolverine is given the same ability Spider-man was given when he beat Firelord ( the ability to hang no matter what) but on such a regular basis it's almost expected.
Could he fly like Goku if he trains long enough? NO, so there ain't enough training in 616 to let him leap 3 stories if he ain't benching over 900 pounds!!!
NUFF SAID!
but much love bro... 😮💨
I thought we were bros 🙁
Stop playing devil's advocate or you're getting a sleepsmilie, you know how to discern things right, if a guy told you a cat was a canine, you'd know better right.
Below are my tested and proved top ten signs of a wolverine fanboy:
1. Brings up Wolvie feats, but can't explain how they'd logically work.
2. Uses insults as a last defense, because the fanboy feels that it makes them look smart, and right about what they're saying.
3. Thrives off Wolvie feats and biased info, Wolverine fights his best, while everyone else gets a handicap.
4. Thinks Wolverine beats everyone because he is Weapon X.
5. Has a HUGE distaste for spidey and his supporters, as he's in Wolverine's way to #1.
6. Has the grammar of a kindergartener.
7. Gets mad when logic is used againt them.
8. Are the same people in every Wolverine thread.
9. Thinks every superhero is jealous of Wolverine.
10. Thinks Wolverine can easily beat Namor.
If the opponent shows any of the following systems, its best to log off thread threadand avoid using anymore logic with them.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
ludicrious, spiderman webbed up wolverine and left, poor cash cow...... 🙁
Just to nag but Spider-man is ten times the cash cow Wolverine is, has ever been or every will be, the only cash cow worse then Spider-man is Batman (the guy accounts for more the 60% of DCs monthly comics).
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell1. Brings up Wolvie feats, but can't explain how they'd logically work.
3. Thrives off Wolvie feats and biased info, Wolverine fights his best, while everyone else gets a handicap.
5. Has a HUGE distaste for spidey and his supporters, as he's in Wolverine's way to #1.
1. How does someone move a planet with brute strength? It is impossible. How does the Flash move faster then light speed? It's impossible. You can't bring logic into a comic match. If we did characters couldn't do 90% of what the do in their comics... then what is the point of even debating about them?
3. Once again, we want people to use feats, they are what is cannon not some stats on the back of a trading card. A comic feat can hardly be baised (unless it is by Garth Ennis) and we ignore PIS feats (except concerning Deathstroke)... none of which have been brought up.
5. You got that backwards again
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
True, this wasn't aimed at you in the least, but spidey has a better developed character is poor, and has a sense of humor, which is why he connects to everyone, and the webslinging. Spiderman loses quite often though.Yea batman is just insane.
I wouldnt say Peter is a better developed character, he certianly has a more indepth character development but that doesn't make it better. If Marvel went more indepth into Wolverine's character it would elminate the little charm he has left from his orgins.
I don't know whose the bigger cash cow, but Wolverine is in every single X-title right now so he is a major cash cow. So although comics are all there really is to go off a lot of Wolverine's fights are just plain PIS - Wolverine hasn't survived this long in the Marvel universe because of his healing factor he's survived because the writers would never kill him off.
I would revise that #1 sign of fanboyism to bringing up Wolverine's feats without logical explanations within the limits of the characters abilities.
Most up to date Wolverine info I could find.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
1. How does someone move a planet with brute strength? It is impossible. How does the Flash move faster then light speed? It's impossible. You can't bring logic into a comic match. If we did characters couldn't do 90% of what the do in their comics... then what is the point of even debating about them?3. Once again, we want people to use feats, they are what is cannon not some stats on the back of a trading card. A comic feat can hardly be baised (unless it is by Garth Ennis) and we ignore PIS feats (except concerning Deathstroke)... none of which have been brought up.
5. You got that backwards again
Its not logic alone,its the conclusions from reasoning, we shouldn't believe everything we see, excluding origins, comic world is built from people in the real world, who want to connect on some level, which is why sex and violence is all over comics now, and language, if you ask me comics are more real then ever.