Originally posted by jinzin
he actually....uhhh...DOES apply it alot...that's just your opinion that he doesn't....and are these characters not at their best...spidermans spider sense doesn't always work either...should we assume it may not for this fight?
Well if we are gonna say that then wolvies healin factor goes on and off every other day of the week.
Originally posted by The MISTER
A cemetary battle sounds right down Wolverines alley... You tell me, was the environmental advantage for him or not. The rooftop battle was a typical hero battle.....Do you call that a fight to the finish? Neither one was trying to go for a kill and Spidey thought it was an impersonator. In the avengers place of training we can see very accurately that Wolverine negates the webbing and even transforms it into liquid... in the next panel is there any even sticking to him? Also that was a training excersize and Wolverine caught Spider-man (his ally) with a cowardly attack and lied about it being an accident ( he later said that he was jealous of Spidey's woman)The only things that really made no sense were these things here: Wolverine backhanded Spider-man about fifteen feet but doesn't have the strength or mass to hit him that hard.
Wolverine tackled Spidey in the cemetary and knocked him down but Spidey has caught a Cadillac slung at him by the Scorpion without falling.
Wolverine transformed the webbing into liquid at the avengers facility.
What's funny is how you act as though the files have something to do with this particular fight when they're obviously considering every aspect of a characters abilities....If wolverine knows how to drive a tank or fly a plane that is enough to give him an edge in an overall rating. The files are not based on who would bring more to a one on one fight with no prep-time.
If you like, love, or hate Wolverine it really doesn't make a difference to the facts....And the fact of the matter is that Wolverine can't and never has been able to perform feats of superhuman strength.. (lifting ability) And without superhuman strength Spider-mans webbing is not breakable except for one out of ten-thousand times....Just like with or without superhuman strength Namors punches are powerful enough to knock a character off his feet one out of tenthousand times....
In order to avoid screaming lousy writing let's just say that Wolverine is a very lucky guy. ( Spider-man's lucky too but he wouldn't have to RELY on it to beat Wolverine over half the time in a real fight where neither side had any advantages given them)
How exactly did Wolverine transform the webbing into liquid?
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actually wolverine didn't lie about it being an accident and he wasn't jealous of spiderman's girl.....read the book and find out for yourself....he negated the webbing because he was pulling away from the wall as spiderman was attempting to web him to it...it's what I've been saying all along, spidey CAN web logan up, but wolverine's fast enough to get out of it before it sets...like superglue....it's a fair assumption...none of us are really sure how spiderman's new webbing works so why is this so easily discarded?
in the graveyard fight, spiderman could barely stand by the end of it...again spiderman's not resistant to fatigue if he's going all out...which is what he'd have to be to keep wolvie back again..cause wolverine just keeps coming... so wolverine tackled him...
the stats in question are power levels based on abilties that the characters have in a fighting scenario....wolverine as a higher level than spidey. you're own reasoning for neglecting this is making your argument worse...if it had to do with ALLLLL the abilities these characters have spiderman can nullify his opponents powers by making gadgets with preptime...he can obviously outweigh wolverine here..however the stats in a fighting scenario have wolverine at an advantage not spidey...just accept it.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
NO he hasn't they were stalemates, and these were hardly fights, and aren't even worth decent evidence, as neither were doing there best, spidey in particular.
ummmm...spiderman even admitted he gave it all he had and wolverine didn't even stop miling..obviously he wasn't at his best... 🙄
Originally posted by jinzin
ummmm...spiderman even admitted he gave it all he had and wolverine didn't even stop miling..obviously he wasn't at his best... 🙄
Why again, would spiderman fight up closewhen wolverine could dodge those hits.
Wolverine couldn't do much else, therefore its safe to assume he wasn't in his best condition either, that, and he was stunned afterwards.
Wolverine likes pain, smiling means nothing, seeing as he knows he will heal back.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellHow quick do the claws come out?
If the claws were out, why would he go up for melee in the first place?
Spiderman was wailing away on wolverine, when he tired wolverine tackled him and punched him in the face right before placing he hands under Spiderman's chin and offering a draw by lying to him.
Wolverine respects Spiderman and wanted to save his ego by offering a draw in a way that it would seem to spiderman it would be a draw.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellHeh. No, Spiderman was already meleeing with him.
Did wolverine make a new power where people like spiderman and iron man have to fight melee?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellER, no, they impact the rest of the storyline and thus are 616 canon and not "what if"
Thats why these are made for "what if" and entertainment only.
Originally posted by jinzin
he actually....uhhh...DOES apply it alot...that's just your opinion that he doesn't....and are these characters not at their best...spidermans spider sense doesn't always work either...should we assume it may not for this fight?
Wolverine doesn't apply little of what he does, he charges and thats mostly it, he has that healing to allow him not to think twice.
Originally posted by Creshosk
How quick do the claws come out?Spiderman was wailing away on wolverine, when he tired wolverine tackled him and punched him in the face right before placing he hands under Spiderman's chin and offering a draw by lying to him.
Wolverine respects Spiderman and wanted to save his ego by offering a draw in a way that it would seem to spiderman it would be a draw.
Heh. No, Spiderman was already meleeing with him.
ER, no, they impact the rest of the storyline and thus are 616 canon and not "what if"
Why would spiderman fight in melee?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellNot in the company crossovers, those aren't the same thing as cross company crossovers. . otherwise a crossover between spiderman and green goblin could be called stupid.
How didn't he, the writers made him do that...
'Either way, crossovres are poor,poor proof. 🙁
Oh, I got caught up in that. . .Ha ha!
"Because I don't like it, it didn't happen."
That's the gist of your argument.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Not in the company crossovers, those aren't the same thing as cross company crossovers. . otherwise a crossover between spiderman and green goblin could be called stupid.Oh, I got caught up in that. . .Ha ha!
"Because I don't like it, it didn't happen."
That's the gist of your argument.
No I like it so it can happen, and I can't explain why.
Spiderman uses the full extent of his abilities on GG, but now he can't, and he was rescuing people.
You can't explain healing range, and want logan up close, I don't understand why you don't see crossovers as nothing more than? of a battle.
Otherwise Hulk would've killed alot of marvel heroes by now....-