I am n ot sure who wins anymore. Wolverune hits spiderman, in the correct spot, and he is dead, but Wolverine is not going to get the chance to touch him, but Spiderman can't Ko Wolverine that quick, so I guess if he uses web to web him up in a certain way. Well its atie because Wolverine can not hit Spidey, and Spidey can not kill Wolverine, While he is mobile, and he would to busy dodgeing claws. You guys feel me ?
Ok, Spiderman webs Wolverine's hands and arms to a wall. Even if he can get out, he has to twist his arms in such a way that his claws cut the webbing. Which would take a good amount of time.
If Spiderman webs his wrists to anything, Wolverine is pretty screwed cuz he won't be able to just cut the webs. Fights between the two have decided to disregard the stickiness of the webs. And Spiderman never tries to actually kill Wolverine while he's webbed.
Oh, and sticking a web shooter down Wolverine's throat is also perfectly possible when Wolverine's wrists are stuck to a wall.
And the problem for Wolverine, my good pimp, is that Spiderman can get away from Wolverine pretty easily, and his webs have good range. Out in the open, he could web Logan's feet, then stick his wrists to his legs... Sorry, just thinking of difficult positions for Wolverine to be stuck in.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Ok, Spiderman webs Wolverine's hands and arms to a wall. Even if he can get out, he has to twist his arms in such a way that his claws cut the webbing. Which would take a good amount of time.If Spiderman webs his wrists to anything, Wolverine is pretty screwed cuz he won't be able to just cut the webs. Fights between the two have decided to disregard the stickiness of the webs. And Spiderman never tries to actually kill Wolverine while he's webbed.
Oh, and sticking a web shooter down Wolverine's throat is also perfectly possible when Wolverine's wrists are stuck to a wall.
And Wolverine lets him do all this ? Why don't wolverine just give up then.
Originally posted by DizzleAt a distence the webbing becomes less effective do to the elasticity that makes it like a rope. . .
Wolverine lets Spiderman do this because Spiderman is much stronger and the claws are all tied up at the moment. (hahaha, bad joke) Spiderman can stay away from Wolverine because of web swinging and superior speed and agility.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Ok, Spiderman webs Wolverine's hands and arms to a wall. Even if he can get out, he has to twist his arms in such a way that his claws cut the webbing. Which would take a good amount of time.If Spiderman webs his wrists to anything, Wolverine is pretty screwed cuz he won't be able to just cut the webs. Fights between the two have decided to disregard the stickiness of the webs. And Spiderman never tries to actually kill Wolverine while he's webbed.
Oh, and sticking a web shooter down Wolverine's throat is also perfectly possible when Wolverine's wrists are stuck to a wall.
And the problem for Wolverine, my good pimp, is that Spiderman can get away from Wolverine pretty easily, and his webs have good range. Out in the open, he could web Logan's feet, then stick his wrists to his legs... Sorry, just thinking of difficult positions for Wolverine to be stuck in.
you may want to look over that link again..the situation you described is EXACTLY what happened...except wolverine got out and stabbed spidey's ass..
Originally posted by DizzleHe wouldn't need to be pulling with all his force to swing form them. Just enough to support his own weight.
Yes, and the webs stretch and snap when Spiderman tries to swing on them too. Cuz you know, they take a few seconds before they actually work...
Originally posted by DizzleHe'd have to keep moving so that he stayed out of reach.
Also, I never said he had to be leagues away. Just far enough that Logan can't reach him.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Yes, and the webs stretch and snap when Spiderman tries to swing on them too. Cuz you know, they take a few seconds before they actually work...Also, I never said he had to be leagues away. Just far enough that Logan can't reach him.
it didn't look like that in the picture
Originally posted by jinzin
you may want to look over that link again..the situation you described is EXACTLY what happened...except wolverine got out and stabbed spidey's ass..
Except that Wolverine's claws were at a good angle, making it possible for him to get out. Though of course, the stickiness was ignored again too... If Spiderman gets smart and webs Logan's arms away from his body, Wolverine won't be able to cut himself free. Your wrists just don't bend that way. I'd actually call Spidey putting Wolverine's claws in a place where he could use em a good case of CIS. Also, Spiderman didn't kill Wolverine while he was temporarily trapped, which he plausibly could have done. (not in character, but it's possible)
See, once Logan is webbed, he won't be moving forward anymore. Strong sticky stuff pinning you to a wall/the ground will do that. Spiderman's weight at the speed he is swinging would create at least as much force as one of Wolverine's arms. And if it took a few seconds, Peter would still sag down while he was swinging, even if the strain on the web was less than what one Wolvie-arm can generate.
Oh, and that was sarcasm, in reply to Cresh saying that Logan will simply brush off the webs before they get strong and sticky.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Except that Wolverine's claws were at a good angle, making it possible for him to get out. Though of course, the stickiness was ignored again too... If Spiderman gets smart and webs Logan's arms away from his body, Wolverine won't be able to cut himself free. Your wrists just don't bend that way. I'd actually call Spidey putting Wolverine's claws in a place where he could use em a good case of CIS. Also, Spiderman didn't kill Wolverine while he was temporarily trapped, which he plausibly could have done. (not in character, but it's possible)See, once Logan is webbed, he won't be moving forward anymore. Strong sticky stuff pinning you to a wall/the ground will do that. Spiderman's weight at the speed he is swinging would create at least as much force as one of Wolverine's arms. And if it took a few seconds, Peter would still sag down while he was swinging, even if the strain on the web was less than what one Wolvie-arm can generate.
Oh, and that was sarcasm, in reply to Cresh saying that Logan will simply brush off the webs before they get strong and sticky.
again....what's the assumption that he'll be webbing him to exactly...it's not like these two guys are gonna be standing in a doorway or in a thin alley way between two walls where spiderman can effectively web them to the doors or walls and make them stuck there..............I mean otherwise he's just spraying webbing on them...which though annoying doesn't really reduce their mobility.....it's like being hit with silly string..."okay now I have silly string on me...I can still move around just fine....i just have annoying silly string on me.....so what?"........the same thing applies to the trio thread...so what if he does hit them with webbing...unless there are an abundance of walls to web them to...and they are already backed up TO those walls....he's just hitting them with annoying webbing....so what?
I mean really you have to admit that whole argument's giving spidey a HUGE benefit of the doubt.
Originally posted by Dizzle
10 yards is more than enough. I was talking about a "jump back and fire" manneuver, rather than going onto a roof and playing snipah.
not a good idea either..he has no leverage in midair...hell even nightcrawlers grabbed the webbing while peter was spraying it during a jump and swung his ass around...I'd venture to say wolverine could easily do this...or dodge it alltogether...
Originally posted by jinzinParticularly with the instantly webbing him in a compromising position without effort. . .
again....what's the assumption that he'll be webbing him to exactly...it's not like these two guys are gonna be standing in a doorway or in a thin alley way between two walls where spiderman can effectively web them to the doors or walls and make them stuck there..............I mean otherwise he's just spraying webbing on them...which though annoying doesn't really reduce their mobility.....it's like being hit with silly string..."okay now I have silly string on me...I can still move around just fine....i just have annoying silly string on me.....so what?"........the same thing applies to the trio thread...so what if he does hit them with webbing...unless there are an abundance of walls to web them to...and they are already backed up TO those walls....he's just hitting them with annoying webbing....so what?I mean really you have to admit that whole argument's giving spidey a HUGE benefit of the doubt.
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