Originally posted by jinzinI know he's a great fighter, but it's quite difficult to fight while being blindfolded and smothered by webbing with no muscles in your forearms.
again...IF spidey does this......................IF............................wolverine's been shown to effectively fight blindfolded...just one of the benefits of being oguns student.
Originally posted by jinzinI think I put something like this on here or another thread a long time ago. Spidey's always been a good "on his feet" thinker. This isn't really the most complicated of plans either.
you seriously think spidey could concieve that gameplan in about 10 seconds or less...much less....when it took you 224 pages? 😕
Originally posted by brainchild81that's the premise, but it's easier said than done.
I know he's a great fighter, but it's quite difficult to fight while being blindfolded and smothered by webbing with no muscles in your forearms.
Originally posted by brainchild81Easier said than done though. Because you are underestimating Wolverine's speed.
I think I put something like this on here or another thread a long time ago. Spidey's always been a good "on his feet" thinker. This isn't really the most complicated of plans either.
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Originally posted by brainchild81
I know he's a great fighter, but it's quite difficult to fight while being blindfolded and smothered by webbing with no muscles in your forearms. I think I put something like this on here or another thread a long time ago. Spidey's always been a good "on his feet" thinker. This isn't really the most complicated of plans either.
so logan's automatically "demuscled" as soon as he's hit by the webbing...IF it happens in the first place? don't you see the bias in that assessment?
wolverine's a good on his feet thinker too...doesn't mean too much here....while it's not a complicated plan it is however VERY unorthodox and it would take a while for petey to figure it out....longer than he's got anyways.
Originally posted by brainchild81I think Wolverine could do this before Spiderman got to him:
Not really. I know he's fast. Spidey's a bit faster though. Easier said than done applys to pretty much everything when you think about it 🙂
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Originally posted by PimpXMaster
Wow, My mind changed from Spiderman, to Wolverione. you guys are making me feel bad for voting for Spiderman. I thought all this stuff, but it looks like the pics, prooved me wrong.
well at least you can accept what's happened.. alot of people on here say these pictures don't mean anything in a hypothetical debate....
In terms of giving Spiderman the big advantage by giving him walls, even in open space, a shot to Logan's feet should keep him there for a bit. He could even possibly do something as evil as webbing Logan's arms to his legs as he reaches down... which would be just as hard to get out of as being spread eagled on a wall.
Webbing isn't an instantaneous process, but it's not like he can't hit Logan. And cutting out of webs would take more time than webbing something. Spiderman's aim is very good. If he's fairly close to Wolverine, why wouldn't he have problems sticking arms to legs if Wolverine is reaching down to cut his feet free? I still have yet to hear an actual counter for Wolverine's hands being bound in a smart fashion...
And do I seriously have to say that I didn't mean Spiderman would web Wolverine while backflipping? I meant he jumps backwards away from Wolverine so as to create some space, then webs Logan once he lands...
And in response to "Wolverine's automatically something when he's webbed"...
Wolverine automatically breaks out once webbing touches him?
Originally posted by jinzin
well at least you can accept what's happened.. alot of people on here say these pictures don't mean anything in a hypothetical debate....
What kind of proof, is more better than the two, comic book characters, fighting.
Unless Marvel, said on the issue, time to vote on who will win, like the Marvel vs Dc crossover.
Originally posted by Dizzle"Webbing his arms as he's"
In terms of giving Spiderman the big advantage by giving him walls, even in open space, a shot to Logan's feet should keep him there for a bit. He could even possibly do something as evil as webbing Logan's arms to his legs as he reaches down... which would be just as hard to get out of as being spread eagled on a wall.
Originally posted by DizzleBecause it's not automatic to web his hands in a smart fashion, and even if you try, wolverine has gotten out of situations where you'd think he'd be incapacitated.
Webbing isn't an instantaneous process, but it's not like he can't hit Logan. And cutting out of webs would take more time than webbing something. Spiderman's aim is very good. If he's fairly close to Wolverine, why wouldn't he have problems sticking arms to legs if Wolverine is reaching down to cut his feet free? I still have yet to hear an actual counter for Wolverine's hands being bound in a smart fashion...
Originally posted by DizzleThe distance decreases the effectiveness. . .
And do I seriously have to say that I didn't mean Spiderman would web Wolverine while backflipping? I meant he jumps backwards away from Wolverine so as to create some space, then webs Logan once he lands...
Originally posted by PimpXMasterIn this case it seems so.
Is this a battle to the death ?
And we've already seen Spiderman "bashing away with everything" he had. . .
Wolverine has always seemed to hold back in their fights, because when he actually lands his punches, (except for that one time) his claws are sheathed.
The one time Wolverine managed to land a shot with his claws out. . . Spiderman wound up passing out due to blood loss with Wolverine standing over him.
5 yards decreases effectiveness? Spiderman does not have to be far away. Just far enough so that Wolverine can't reach him. I'm not talking miles here.
And you're overrating Wolverine's speed. Your argument for him is that he can cut a circle around both of his feet to free them from the ground before Spiderman can move his arm an inch to fire the webs. Wolverine's fast, Spiderman still remains faster. Shooting a web takes less time than bending down and cutting webs. WOLVERINE IS NOT THE FREAKING FLASH!
Put your hands on your legs and conjure your imaginary claws again. Or just use a pen. Now, if your arm is facing away from your body, do you see the pen/imaginary claws coming anywhere near your wrist? Seemingly impossible still takes time. And in this fight, Spiderman jumping on top of him and forcing webs down his throat without hesitation.
Originally posted by jinzinPerhaps you're underestimating Spidey a bit. It's not like he's stupid. Wolverine's fighting ability, skeleton, claws and healing factor means that if you want to take him out(off him), you've gotta be unorthodox. Spidey knows this. This isn't a 1st time encounter. Spidey can evade long enough to come up with this plan. It's not that complicated. Give him some credit dude.
so logan's automatically "demuscled" as soon as he's hit by the webbing...IF it happens in the first place? don't you see the bias in that assessment?wolverine's a good on his feet thinker too...doesn't mean too much here....while it's not a complicated plan it is however VERY unorthodox and it would take a while for petey to figure it out....longer than he's got anyways.
In a match, it's a tie, because Spiderman could just stay up very high, but since it's to the death, Spiderman will be forced to hit Wolverine, and get close. Spiderman can dodge Wolverine, but While he is hitting Wolverine, he is on offense and his defense is down, so Wolverine could have his winning blow there. Offense and defense can not be high at the same time. Spiderman can not just dodge, after he is in motion, going forward, hitting Wolverine, a series of times to kill him. If he does one punch then dodge, then by the time he lays the next one, Wolverine could heal slowly, while Spiderman gets tired. Well something like that.