CorderaMitchell
Zitz! Rash! Pimple!
Why bother explaining anything to creshosk, this is the best retort you will get.
"Pot to the kettle..."
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Originally posted by Farseer
This is similar to being a small child again, where you played fictional games that were entirely based in the mind and were so far from reality that saying "Well I can do this" was all that was required to have those abilities within the confines of the game. Unfortunately this is a debate about something which while fictional, does have some basis in reality. No there is no real life Spider-man, but the world that it's set in still has the same physical laws. Of course sometimes these physical laws are stretched to accomodate the many feats of the characters involved, but this is usually due to the powers of the fictional characters. If you really want to get into a physics debate, the Flash doesn't make a lot of sense. He can move at close to light speed (I think, but I admit I'm not 100% sure) and by the well known E=mc2, he would collapse under his increasing weight as he doesn't have super strength, as mass increases in proportion to speed. So no we can't set in stone that someone can and can't do something in the comics, but for these debates we have to assume that it's set in our world, since theirs is based on it, but changes so frequently that you could never come to a stisfactory outcome due to the fact that literally anything could happen.
I think a question that really needs to be answered is: Why have the trio fans been completely incabale of actually providing solid evidence as to how the trio would win, or come up with a realistic (again realistic in this setting is itself open to debate) scenario in which the trio beats Spidey. It has been shown repeatedly that the comics themselves are so far flung at different times that what has happenend at various times cannot provide a solid basis for debate. For example in the comics, Spidey has sent Wolvie flying at one point (I believe the pic is somewhere in this thread) just by backhanding him, next I've seen (I'm positive that this pic is in here) Wolvie breaking free of the webbing despite having also seen (I dunno where these pics would be) spidey's webbing hold much stronger people than Wolverine. The comics are so inconsistant that simply looking at what characters have done in the past is more or less irrelevant. The only thing that trio fans have said about them winning is that if Wolverine stabbed Spidey, it's over for him. This is true but the keyword here is if. There's no reasonable explanation as to why Spidey would put himself in the position where he could be stabbed. There's no good reason (especially since he now has organic webbing and doesn't have to worry about canisters running out) why spidey would get in range of wolvie's claws, at least no until he's webbed him sufficiently and can just walk up and choke him/throw him in the water (or however he choses to get around Wolverine's healing). Wolverine has no range, and no chance of catching Spidey if Spidey doesn't want to get close. I've sortof dismissed Cap and DD here but there doesn't really seem to be much debate on that fact that they'd be taken out very quickly and at almost no effort from SM. Now unless you can show solid evidence as to why the trio might win (and I don't mean just quoting this post and saying I'm wrong/stupid/biased etc, I mean actually coming up with a way that they could pull it off). I'm not even a particularly big fan of Spidey, I've always rather liked the X-men, but I can see here that this fight would end with Spidey spinging around making silly comments long after the other 3 are dead/immobile.
I have mentioned nothing about Spidey winning "because of something he did one time in the comics", and I have spidey winning. I don't want to hear anything about Wolvering having ripped through webbing once, jumped 3 floors once, stabbed Spidey once or any of that other stuff based solely on comic inconsistencies. If you can't come up with a trio-victory situation based solely on what they can and can't do, as shown by their stats/powers (which are created by Marvel so that's what the creators say they can/can't do) then please don't be offended by people laughing at you and ignoring you for being a fanboy with nothing constructive to bring to the debate.
"Said the pot to the kettle."- creshosk...
I guess thats not an explanation either.... pathetic.