Originally posted by colossus17
its a very powerful cosmic GOD.....he once killed all the abstracts in the marvel and DC universes with a thought.he killed the pheonix TOAA the presence and living tribunal with one blast.....it made galactus his herald.....JP bascially evolved beyond the multiverse and omniverse beyond the beyonder realm and beyond anything.....he is the most powerful concept and thing in reality and beyond
fear JP
Originally posted by colossus17
+screw the duck man......u saw what JP can do.....i just wish they would give him his own series
Don't insult Duck-man 😠 I am proud of my new creation!!! I shall treat him like he is the newest and coolest hero ever .........He can even beat Pryo, but thats cos Pryo is dead otherwise Duck-man is screwed............. 😂
Originally posted by jinzinActually, he didn't try. He put his hands in postition, but he hesitated. He couldn't make himself do it. It wasn't in him. That's why Wolvie told him he wasn't a killer. Take another look @it. It'd be cool if you posted it again 'cause I haven't seen the whole thing in a while. I hate having to remember this stuff. Wolvie's a tough a$$ killing machine. Spidey, who was scared as s**t in that encounter, THOUGHT his only option was to go for the neck snap. He didn't even use the webs once things got going. He could've put Wolvie in a full nelson type hold and smothered his face into the ground or web smothered him. He got all nervous and stayed in H2H mode
again....ignoring spiderman could do nothing else....he was at a lack options....you didn't school me on anything...I'm the one that posted the pics with that qute for everyone to see.....spiderman says he lets wolverine tackle him...why because nothing else was working and spiderman thought there was only one way to stop him seeing hw nothing else did any good..he tried to break logan's neck..the whole idea behind him letting wolverine tackle him was to break the guys neck because punches weren't doing anything.....can he break logan's neck? NO...so he indirectly admitted to having NOTHING that could put wolverine down...
Originally posted by jinzinHe wasn't having any luck slashing @ him before. He would've most likely missed, as he had been doing, and Spidey would've continued socking him. Were Wolvie's claws out while he was on the ground?
yup...maybe you should learn how sometime....spiderman says he can't get wolverine to stop smiling....we see wolverine saying here it comes than he starts taking spidey punches to the face....if he wanted to hurt spiderman he would have slashed at spiderman's incoming jackhammers.... being hit in the head like that doesn't keep wolverine from flailing his arms...so we're left to assume that wolverine was doing exaclt what you said he was doing...trying to simply get up....which is evident when he DID get up....as he didn't stab spiderman in the tackle nor in his punch....he was holding back for spiderman's safety...if he wanted to get up...one or two slashes would be all he needed..also up close who has greater range...wolverine plus claws or spiderman's arms...wolverine could've just stabbed him....he didn't...he was holding back...a lot....
Originally posted by jinzinHe gave him a second when he let him get up. He stopped punching and stood perfectly still for him. The fetal thing is a slight improvement on the get beat down and smile 'til he stops tactic. Once Spidey gets going, all Wolvie can do is wait for him to stop or get tired or pass out due to blood loss. Spidey's too fast for Wolvie to have any successful offense until Spidey gets tired. Wasn't he having trouble tagging Punisher? Spidey did have some experience. He didn't have any experience in death-matches against mutant killers w/metal laced bones and healing factors though. Wolvie's went from smiling @ Spidey punches to saying "God that hurts". That tells you things are a bit different now. Also, in the Marvel team-up thing you were speaking of, didn't Wolvie have his claws out because he figured the kid might be hostile?
fetal....when wolverine's not fighting back....at all.........funny how that aspect of it changes things completely...........younger...a little bit...he was still very very very experienced in the super hero business....already took down some of his toughest foes to date by the time this came about....he was scared cause he knew what I know, one hit and it's over...spiderman DID try to web wolverine's arm before the fight got started....wolverine cut the webbing off...after they got in close spiderman could use the webbing...he didn't have enough time at that range..."I can't give him a second, he'll kill me".
Originally posted by jinzinYou're saying Wolvie assumed Spidey could do it AND you're saying Wolvie lied. Pick one my good brutha.🙂
spiderman assumed he could break wolvies neck..wolverine ASSUMED spiderman could do the same....just the same way you've ASSUMED spiderman can do it too....common sense dictates that the bones are not all interconnected by adamantium....too bad wolverine's character and comic books in general deviate from common sense...it's a known fact that wolverine's bones are bonded at the molecular level...unless spiderman has hulk level strength that I didn't know about, he wasn't about to break anything....cresh has covered this already..wolverine lied so he could stop the fight then and there without having to hurt anyone....
Originally posted by jinzinThat's crazy. I'd like to see that. It honestly sounds like big time PIS/CIS especially w/Sabretooth involved. How often has Wolvie fought 'tooth. He alone takes mo' then fo'. I doubt Wolvie AND Spidey could beat all of them in 4 secs. That writer was on drugs dude. It doesn't make any sense. Seriously, was Wolvie bonded @ the molecular level w/Quicksilver? You're probably gonna say that I'm crying PIS/CIS. But deep down, you know that doesn't make sense. I'm not taking away from Wolvie hitting Spidey. Wolvie can always hit him in a non-fight, training session, or if Spidey thinks he's fighting some a$$hole imposter🙂
it's the same as the secret wars example...his opponents wanted to stop him..the only difference is..they didn't want to hold back using their best offensive weapons....the x-men did....if you consider secret wars the best example of a fight..than this should account for the same as it is the same exact scenario.....I'm trying to debate with you on your level...which is very hard to do thanks to all your contradictions and such.you can't take away from the fact that wolverine's gotten out of webbing multiple times. that he's hit spiderman multiple time..and that he's got more going for him than you give him credit for...you say it doesn't count cause spiderman wasn't at his peak..when all three times logans humiliated him logan was holding back a TON.....are you aware that logan at his best is capable of putting down shingen, ogun, deathsrike, and sabretooth, and at the same time...AND in 4 seconds?
you seriously believe spiderman's ready to handle that at any level? I certainly don't....
Originally posted by jinzinI thought it was a pretty good read also.
in any case the discussion you and I are having over the graveyard fight as asserted to me the realization that THAT comic wasn't bad writing at all...they did exactly what good writers should do in that situation and made a fight where both spidey and logan look good to their respective readers without any referances to pis and such..I solute them....catch ya later brainchild....
Originally posted by brainchild81Spiderman let him tackle him to pull him in close. As soon as he put his hands in position Wolverine told him he didn't have it in him.
Actually, he didn't try. He put his hands in postition, but he hesitated. He couldn't make himself do it. It wasn't in him. That's why Wolvie told him he wasn't a killer. Take another look @it. It'd be cool if you posted it again 'cause I haven't seen the whole thing in a while. I hate having to remember this stuff. Wolvie's a tough a$$ killing machine. Spidey, who was scared as s**t in that encounter, THOUGHT his only option was to go for the neck snap. He didn't even use the webs once things got going. He could've put Wolvie in a full nelson type hold and smothered his face into the ground or web smothered him. He got all nervous and stayed in H2H mode
Originally posted by brainchild81It's also interesting to note that Wolverine pulled out of a block. Hadf his claws up in front of him, said "here it comes" and then. . . pulled his hands down and started taking the beating.
He wasn't having any luck slashing @ him before. He would've most likely missed, as he had been doing, and Spidey would've continued socking him. Were Wolvie's claws out while he was on the ground?
Originally posted by brainchild81Wolverine wasn't fighting back at that point. . .
He gave him a second when he let him get up. He stopped punching and stood perfectly still for him. The fetal thing is a slight improvement on the get beat down and smile 'til he stops tactic. Once Spidey gets going, all Wolvie can do is wait for him to stop or get tired or pass out due to blood loss.
Originally posted by brainchild81Actually there isn't much of a difference between trying to apologize and smiling while being beat upon. . . the punches were still not having the effect you probably hope and think that they did.
Spidey's too fast for Wolvie to have any successful offense until Spidey gets tired. Wasn't he having trouble tagging Punisher? Spidey did have some experience. He didn't have any experience in death-matches against mutant killers w/metal laced bones and healing factors though. Wolvie's went from smiling @ Spidey punches to saying "God that hurts". That tells you things are a bit different now. Also, in the Marvel team-up thing you were speaking of, didn't Wolvie have his claws out because he figured the kid might be hostile?
Originally posted by brainchild81Could be both. Spiderman COULDN'T break his neck, so telling him he could was a lie, wether wolverine knew or not. Wolverine tackled spiderman in such a way had the claws been out Spiderman would have been stabbed, then punched Spiderman in such a way that he would have been killed had the claws been out.
You're saying Wolvie assumed Spidey could do it AND you're saying Wolvie lied. Pick one my good brutha.🙂
Originally posted by brainchild81So you mean his spider sense wasn't working during those times? Or he was ignoring it even though it would still be telling him they're dangerous?
Wolvie can always hit him in a non-fight, training session, or if Spidey thinks he's fighting some a$$hole imposter🙂
Originally posted by Creshosk
http://www.toonopedia.com/duckman.jpghttp://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/h/howardtheduck.htm
I knew about Howard the Duck but Duckman? NNOOOOO they copied my idea 😠
