Originally posted by joesha28
You mean Logan could heal from unconciousness.
No, thats craziness.
First of all, the healing DOES NOT commence before the damage took place, the damage comes, THEN the healing ensues.
Healing tissue means little, unconsciousness is a STATE, he wouldn't POP UP, like a video game. Thats why coma's can last as long as they do.
He could pop up, but he was ko'ed, so he loses.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No, thats craziness.First of all, the healing DOES NOT commence before the damage took place, the damage comes, THEN the healing ensues.
Healing tissue means little, unconsciousness is a STATE, he wouldn't POP UP, like a video game. Thats why coma's can last as long as they do.
He could pop up, but he was ko'ed, so he loses.
I think I need an more indepth explanation here...
I thought that people who are in comas are in comas because they have some degree of neurological damage, the duration of their coma depending on the severity of the damage. Since Wolverine's healing factor also mends his central nervous system wouldn't he just heal the reason he was in a coma in the first place...
Originally posted by PointinelYou always pop on trying to spite me..., thats why. 😮💨
@CMwait a minute here... you bother me just as much as i bother you dude.
that's why we log on this board anyways, right? so we can have some escape from reality every once in a while. for me, it would be to have a break from my paperjobs at work (i almost never log in my house, tonight being an exception).
now everything i posted here is just for fun, and i dont intend to emotionally harm anyone seriously. i thought you knew that dude or at least it kinda seemed that way. but if i did, my bad yall.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think I need an more indepth explanation here...I thought that people who are in comas are in comas because they have some degree of neurological damage, the duration of their coma depending on the severity of the damage. Since Wolverine's healing factor also mends his central nervous system wouldn't he just heal the reason he was in a coma in the first place...
What I am saying is that he gets up faster but healing tissue damage isn't enough to make someone pop up faster.
FURTHERMORE, a concussive hit takes longer to heal, than say, a cut.
1: Inertia, if you were to hit a punching bag(the small coordination one , dexterity training), you see it reacts. It moves around, alot. Same with a person, except with the inside. If you were to hit someone in the head, the victim inside would feel the force (brain). The energy just doesn't stop at the inital hit.
2: Stronger metal absorbs such forces less. People often mistake the adamantium for not feeling any damage, and the adamantium absorbing ALL of the damage. The reverse is true, tougher metals absorb less because their bonds don't give in to the force. If I were to drive an indestructable car, and collide with something (wall) with a great force, I would still get tossed around, moreso even. In fact newer cars actually give MORE support to the victim by moving in to absorb more damage of collsion. In short, the adamatium ABSORBS the hits fine.
3: The velocity in attacks are there to make the hit into an even greater effect.
A 30000 lifter with the starting velocity of (300-400mph first sec), is stronger than many realize. The writers don't often include that (everything would die, or a character holds back), but its all included here, because this is a HYPOTHETICAL argument.
4: Using that SAME TOKEN, just because a char was hit by a 100 ton lifter, than that doesn't mean the hits were at 100 tons. If I were to get hit by WW and stand up, I wouldn't go "I survived a 100 ton hit", so its hard to measure hits in comics, because often you'll see a guy like batman do more damage to a guy, than a hit by flash.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
What I am saying is that he gets up faster but healing tissue damage isn't enough to make someone pop up faster.FURTHERMORE, a concussive hit takes longer to heal, than say, a cut.
1: Inertia, if you were to hit a punching bag(the small coordination one , dexterity training), you see it reacts. It moves around, alot. Same with a person, except with the inside. If you were to hit someone in the head, the victim inside would feel the force (brain). The energy just doesn't stop at the inital hit.
2: Stronger metal absorbs such forces less. People often mistake the adamantium for not feeling any damage, and the adamantium absorbing ALL of the damage. The reverse is true, tougher metals absorb less because their bonds don't give in to the force. If I were to drive an indestructable car, and collide with something (wall) with a great force, I would still get tossed around, moreso even. In fact newer cars actually give MORE support to the victim by moving in to absorb more damage of collsion. In short, the adamatium ABSORBS the hits fine.
3: The velocity in attacks are there to make the hit into an even greater effect.
A 30000 lifter with the starting velocity of (300-400mph first sec), is stronger than many realize. The writers don't often include that (everything would die, or a character holds back), but its all included here, because this is a HYPOTHETICAL argument.4: Using that SAME TOKEN, just because a char was hit by a 100 ton lifter, than that doesn't mean the hits were at 100 tons. If I were to get hit by WW and stand up, I wouldn't go "I survived a 100 ton hit", so its hard to measure hits in comics, because often you'll see a guy like batman do more damage to a guy, than a hit by flash.
You are talking about organs being ruptured correct? To be honest the every one of Logan's organs should be ruptured by the mere force of the Hulk swinging his arm near him. Although there have been Wolverine narratives where he has said he can feel his organs turning into liquid from the force of a Hulk blow but reforming before an other hit is taken.
If healing the damage that caused someone to loss conciousness in the first place wont help them come to... then what excactly happens to a person during the corse of a coma that allows them to regain conciousness?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Hulk ko'ed wolverine with a glancing blow, thing took him in a mere hit.There's no reason why that shouldn't hold true, but at least you saw what I meant.
Marvel hadn't given Wolverine a healing factor or an adamantium skeleton as of his first apperance, so the ko via glancing blow isn't an accurat portraly of Wolverine's character (even though Hulk did body slam Logan in 181 with enough force to shatter the chains that bound him). And Thing has launched Wolverine threw several buildings with a full on punch with out koing him.
Originally posted by joesha28Good post.
Ok, after some readings. All i have to say to Wolverine fans is "sorry". I like Wolverine better than Spiderman. But i should not be bias. Spiderman is about 10 times stronger than Wolverine. Much quicker, agile. With the Spider-sense, Wolverine with all his skill will find it very very difficult. Forget, those past fights guys. Writers write them that way to make it interesting. In a thread we see the abilities projected, personalities of the character.If Spiderman in a normal mood: Spiderman 7/10 (the 3 if Spiderman is careless while talking a lot.)
If Spiderman in a angry mood😖piderman 9/10 (that 1 for Wolverine is nothing but mere luck to stab Spidey.)
Originally posted by srankmissingninWhich appearance are you talking about?
Marvel hadn't given Wolverine a healing factor or an adamantium skeleton as of his first apperance, so the ko via glancing blow isn't an accurat portraly of Wolverine's character (even though Hulk did body slam Logan in 181 with enough force to shatter the chains that bound him). And Thing has launched Wolverine threw several buildings with a full on punch with out koing him.
The thing just slightly bonked him on the head. Wolverine got the enhanced prowress from popularity.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Which appearance are you talking about?
I think FF 374... but I'm not sure
The thing just slightly bonked him on the head. Wolverine got the enhanced prowress from popularity.
You sure like to say that a lot don't you? How do you explain the rest of Wolverine's comic career? You know... everything BEFORE the 90's?
Read Uncanny X-men #96, I mean even in the 70's he took a full strength hit from Colossus with out even stunned, and then he goes on the beat the crap out of Kierrok the Damned. He was even taking beatings from Weapon Alpha (aka Guardian aka Vindicator), who was supposed to be the equal of any Avenger when he first appeared.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You sure like to say that a lot don't you? How do you explain the rest of Wolverine's comic career? You know... everything BEFORE the 90's?Read Uncanny X-men #96, I mean even in the 70's he took a full strength hit from Colossus with out even stunned, and then he goes on the beat the crap out of Kierrok the Damned. He was even taking beatings from Weapon Alpha (aka Guardian aka Vindicator), who was supposed to be the equal of any Avenger when he first appeared.
And in the very beginning, Wolverine was just a man with claws - Hulk punched his lights out with a gentle punch. A few decades later, Wolverine trades punches with Hulk... somebody explain please ?
Originally posted by who?-kid
Vindicator beat Wolverine - Wolverine didn't know what hit him lol. The X-Men had to save his ass. And Vindicator wasn't that impressive.And in the very beginning, Wolverine was just a man with claws - Hulk punched his lights out with a gentle punch. A few decades later, Wolverine trades punches with Hulk... somebody explain please ?
Wolverine didn't have a healing factor when he fought the Hulk... infact he didnt have anything other then some gloves with claws attetacthed, he was only Wolverine be name.