Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I need to know where spiderman clearly lost in a match that was close to the standards of KMC, because ALL of them had been against his favor... in terms of him wanting to fight.
in the training session he clearly pasted out. actauly u have it the wrong way it has been spiderman almost every single fight who has started it. grave yard fight was started by spiderman. fight in newyrok was started by spiderman. fight in training session was started by spiderman
Originally posted by wolverine8888Not to the matches content.
in the training session he clearly pasted out. actauly u have it the wrong way it has been spiderman almost every single fight who has started it. grave yard fight was started by spiderman. fight in newyrok was started by spiderman. fight in training session was started by spiderman
If I stab my brother on accident, and then he gets hits on me, could I consider that a win in a match specified that its head to head best of abilities?
The newyork one was a similarity to me going easy on someone because I thought them to be someone tougher.
Graveyard was accidentally started by him, and he did subdue wolverine, because wolverine didn't hit back until spiderman got off of him.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Not to the matches content.If I stab my brother on accident, and then he gets hits on me, could I consider that a win in a match specified that its head to head best of abilities?
The newyork one was a similarity to me going easy on someone because I thought them to be someone tougher.
Graveyard was accidentally started by him, and he did subdue wolverine, because wolverine didn't hit back until spiderman got off of him.
newyork spiderman was clrealy not holding back he was using hits that were destroy bricks and such.
graveyard fight wolverine allowed spdierman to hit him just like spiderman allowed wolverine to tackle him.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
diffrence is ur brother does not have spidersense. if it was to kill spiderman would have been dead.newyork spiderman was clrealy not holding back he was using hits that were destroy bricks and such.
graveyard fight wolverine allowed spdierman to hit him just like spiderman allowed wolverine to tackle him.
Spiderman himself said he was holding back, in the training session wolverine got a lucky hit.
And in the graveyard wolverine said spiderman could break his neck, I don't truly see this in wolverine's favor... 🙁
He said he could break his neck AFTER Wolverine planted a fist into his face. take a look at my sig. That punch I'm referring to could have ended Spiderman but Wolverine put his claws AWAY. In the previous frame they were out. This goes to show Wolverine was TOYING with him, not trying to hurt him. It even says that Wolverine was smiling as Spiderman punched him against the tombstone.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spiderman himself said he was holding back, in the training session wolverine got a lucky hit.And in the graveyard wolverine said spiderman could break his neck, I don't truly see this in wolverine's favor... 🙁
first off spdierman never once said he was holding back. second wolverine did not know this at the time but spiderman can not break his neck. also breaking wolverines neck would not do a thing it would heal as soon as it broke.
Originally posted by wolverine8888What the Hell dude? We've been over this before. Read the panels again. Spidey brakes bricks easily. Spidey is holding back or do you honestly think that good guy Spidey was trying to off somebody? Don't be stupid. It seems like you should've gotten this the 1st time.
first off spdierman never once said he was holding back.
Originally posted by scotsmnBut he could do little else BUT smile.
He said he could break his neck AFTER Wolverine planted a fist into his face. take a look at my sig. That punch I'm referring to could have ended Spiderman but Wolverine put his claws AWAY. In the previous frame they were out. This goes to show Wolverine was TOYING with him, not trying to hurt him. It even says that Wolverine was smiling as Spiderman punched him against the tombstone.
Also he ran circles around the xmen INCLUDING wolverine, so if you insist to use crossovers and whatnot for your examples, then I can one up you in that game.
Originally posted by scotsmn
He said he could break his neck AFTER Wolverine planted a fist into his face. take a look at my sig. That punch I'm referring to could have ended Spiderman but Wolverine put his claws AWAY. In the previous frame they were out. This goes to show Wolverine was TOYING with him, not trying to hurt him. It even says that Wolverine was smiling as Spiderman punched him against the tombstone.
You know, it's funny. I've been thinking about that Spiderman-punching-Wolverine-in-face-against-tombstone-scene.
If Spidey were truly going all out...why was the tombstone still standing?
I mean, earlier, Spidey EFFORTLESSLY demolished a brick chimney. And then just breaking a tombstone is impossible?
Clearly, Spiderman (who's able to easily lift cars, train cars, break through steel, cement, brick, etc.) was not going anywhere near all out when punching Wolverine. If he was, that tombstone behind Wolvie's head would've shatter.
And yet, it remained standing. Not a very great representation of one's true strength, eh?
It seems that Spidey was holding back even more than Wolvie was toying with him.
we all know the true outcome of wolvie vs spider fights from the few times spider was trying... Wolvie gets webbed up or dropped of a building.. both those times he uses his full abilities to end the match... Instead of this rubbish where he tries to go toe to toe to wolvie... Honestly..... Hes the infamous web slinger... he would just web him up against that tombstone and win, but instead the writers leave the door open so wolvie can come back.
Wolvie fights seem to have this on going theme where wolvie goes all out and his opponent forgets half of thier powers...
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Wolvie fights seem to have this on going theme where wolvie goes all out and his opponent forgets half of thier powers...
And the ability to somehow come up with an ability to counter something/someone that greatly outclasses him in the power department.
Examples:
He stated that Psylocke couldn't read his movements once..because his "thoughts and actions" were "one"..lol..
The ability to block Professor X from Psi scanning him. (happened once or twice)
Jumping 3 stories in the air, to attack a very high target.
Do I really need to list anymore? Just read anyone of the Wolvie vs [Insert Character here] threads..and you can a number of rediculous feats.
Originally posted by scotsmn
He said he could break his neck AFTER Wolverine planted a fist into his face. take a look at my sig. That punch I'm referring to could have ended Spiderman but Wolverine put his claws AWAY. In the previous frame they were out. This goes to show Wolverine was TOYING with him, not trying to hurt him. It even says that Wolverine was smiling as Spiderman punched him against the tombstone.
Wolverine wins.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Well, guys. I guess we can pack up now. We clearly can't compete with these all-star debators.Haha, no offense really.
But Spiderman wins.
But,that would not make any diference,you would still keep saying that spiderman would win with one punch,that he would webbed wolverine,that wolverine would never touch him yadda yadda yadda.
So I´m just saving my time and saying:
Wolverine wins.
Originally posted by X-Logan
fact is don´t worth for me trying to debat with you,I could say that wolverine could have killed spiderman twice(spiderman vs wolverine series and MKSP 13)if he wanted.I could say that spiderman man never got near to beat wolvie in a fight.I could show wolverine hitting Nighcralwer,beast and the "untouchble" spiderman with no problem at all.I could show that spiderman´s full force wasn´t even enough to stop Logan´s smile,I could say wolvie is to fast with his claws to get webbed(as we can see in Mk Spiderman),unless of course spiderman get wolvie by surprise like Marvel Team up 1.But,that would not make any diference,you would still keep saying that spiderman would win with one punch,that he would webbed wolverine,that wolverine would never touch him yadda yadda yadda.
So I´m just saving my time and saying:
Wolverine wins.
I dunno who you're referring to. I NEVER said Spidey would win with one punch and just by webbing him.
I think you're thinking of someone else.
I think this will be quite the fight, an epic one actually.
Nor have I ever said Spidey is untouchable. He does get hit. But, if you haven't noticed, he only gets hit by the non-lethal stuff (sans that stupid move in the training session with Wolvie). He's also dodged much faster, ie: Doc Ock's tentacles, The Lizard, Scorpion, Venom, etc.
Clearly, we're not going to convince each other, and that's okay.
Wolverine can't win with "one hit" and Spidey can't win with "one hit".
I think Spidey wins, you think Wolvie wins. We'll leave it at that.
Originally posted by X-LoganOh yea, but we can remember that the wolverine that was webbed up was beserk in one issue?
fact is don´t worth for me trying to debat with you,I could say that wolverine could have killed spiderman twice(spiderman vs wolverine series and MKSP 13)if he wanted.I could say that spiderman man never got near to beat wolvie in a fight.I could show wolverine hitting Nighcralwer,beast and the "untouchble" spiderman with no problem at all.I could show that spiderman´s full force wasn´t even enough to stop Logan´s smile,I could say wolvie is to fast with his claws to get webbed(as we can see in Mk Spiderman),unless of course spiderman get wolvie by surprise like Marvel Team up 1.But,that would not make any diference,you would still keep saying that spiderman would win with one punch,that he would webbed wolverine,that wolverine would never touch him yadda yadda yadda.
So I´m just saving my time and saying:
Wolverine wins.
Webbed COMPLETLEY in another?
wolverine isn't too fast for spiderman, spiderman is THE most agile character in marvel, and is MUCH, MUCH faster than a peak human.
Nice try though.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Oh yea, but we can remember that the wolverine that was webbed up was beserk in one issue?Webbed COMPLETLEY in another?
wolverine isn't too fast for spiderman, spiderman is THE most agile character in marvel, and is MUCH, MUCH faster than a peak human.
Nice try though.
The only time wolvie was webbed it was in a non-fight situation,otherwise spiderman tried with no success.
And I didn´t say wolverine is faster than spidey I said he is faster getting out of the web than spiderman holding him with the web.
by the way,Wolveirne is not peak human,he has enhanced human agility,reflexes and strenght.Cap is peak human,wolvie?Not a chance.
This is from OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE MASTER
EDITION(1990).
The diference between peak human and enhanced human here
Enjoy
