Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Smaxxer1,019 pages

Originally posted by steverules
Well I found something out today that interested me, the symbiote costume makes the webbing itself and if spidey was in his symbiote costume then he would lose alot of webbing cause logan can just cut through it and so it would take a while to make more webbing would take a while for him in his symbiote costume....so my question is this could spidey still beat wolvie without his webbing?

Of course. He webs him up in such a way Wolverine can't free himself (been there, done that lol), and finishes the job anyway he likes it.

He has more of enough web to web him up, even in his symbiote costume.

Yeah but let's say that spidey has no webbing would he still be able to beat logan?

yup.... but wolvie couldn't win without his claws...

Originally posted by steverules
Yeah but let's say that spidey has no webbing would he still be able to beat logan?

I admit it would be more difficult. But he still outclasses Wolverine.

If I were Spider-Man, I'd pull a telephone pole out of the ground and kick Wolverine into next week.

Originally posted by steverules
Yeah but let's say that spidey has no webbing would he still be able to beat logan?

Proboly. Spiderman IS faster and stronger.

Originally posted by wolverine8888
he is superhuman. his running speed is human which is a lot diffrent. his hand movements agility and reflex are all in the superhuman range.
Oh yea, we are back to the sound speed wolverine, how pleasant. 🙂

haven't you heard wolvies hands move as fast as the speed of sound....

Which would but him on a level with guile... But without the sonic boom that would occur with his hands going that fast...

No wolverine was supposedly sound speed in his match with dock ock and can jump 50 feet in the air...

This is why I stay in gdf lol.

Originally posted by Smaxxer
Of course. He webs him up in such a way Wolverine can't free himself (been there, done that lol),
When?

Originally posted by Creshosk
When?

he's talking about the non fight with tht fat kid in, it was marvel team up, spidey webed him up so wolverine couldnt use his claws, and he couldnt break free, he had to use his claws to push against his admanium skull ripping the webbing away, while stabbing himself in the head, then used his free arm to cut himself down, allthough im not sure why the pushing power of his claws out his hands was enough to rip the webbing.

Non fight ? I sense a Wolverine fan here...

Short fight true, but a fight nevertheless...

Originally posted by Smaxxer
Non fight ? I sense a Wolverine fan here...

Short fight true, but a fight nevertheless...

Wolverine got out of that. So obvioulsy you can't be talking about a time he got free as a time when he didn't get free.

Oh, oh right, You're one of the people that said that Wolverine was begging for his life during the trianing room incident. . . 🙄

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wolverine got out of that. So obvioulsy you can't be talking about a time he got free as a time when he didn't get free.

Of course he got out. What did you expect, that he was still there in the webbing ? lol

But it wasn't easy for him, it was painful and took some time... in that time, Spider-Man could have killed him ten times, but he had better things to do.

Oh, oh right, You're one of the people that said that Wolverine was begging for his life during the trianing room incident. . . 🙄

Wrong. And now all of a sudden it's just an "incident" (like I have been saying lots of times)? Whatever happened to the so-called "fight" ?

Concerning Wolverine being punched against the gravestone... I will post the entire page when I get home if you need proof.

Spiderman was going all out. He said "I'm giving it everything I have and it's not enough" or something very similar. Then he says that Wolverine continues to take his best punches and simply smiles. He says there is only one way to beat Wolverine and "lets" Wolverine tackle him to the floor. At this point Wolverine must have been TOO FAST for Spiderman because he chin checked that boy before Spiderman could attempt to break his neck. He even had time to put his claws away before dropping a bomb on his face. The point it, Spiderman tried to KILL Wolverine and in the process left himself open to a killing shot by Wolverine, which Wolverine PASSED ON. Then Wolverine proceeds to talk some crap while on top of spiderman about how he could end him right there with his claws up his neck.

Wolverine also caused Spiderman to pass out from blood loss... in training!! I mean, what more proof do you need?

Those of you who write off Wolverine should go back and read this stuff. It's not like Wolverine hasn't gone up against quicker, stronger people before.

Originally posted by Smaxxer
Of course he got out. What did you expect, that he was still there in the webbing ? lol
He got out under his own power without waiting for it to disolve. 🙄

Originally posted by Smaxxer
But it wasn't easy for him, it was painful and took some time... in that time, Spider-Man could have killed him ten times, but he had better things to do.
Right. . . 🙄

Originally posted by Smaxxer
Wrong.
Forgetting what you said before?

Originally posted by Smaxxer
He was asking Spider-Man to stop kicking him around and to stop hurting him - that's begging imo.

Originally posted by Smaxxer
And now all of a sudden it's just an "incident" (like I have been saying lots of times)? Whatever happened to the so-called "fight" ?
Because that's a sore point among the spiderman fans, as soon as it was shown to go in Wolverine's favor rather than spiderman's the spiderman fans (not you just as a point of reference as to how the definition changed due to circumstances) stopped calling it a fight. Funny how near the begining when this first came up it was called a fight, now it's not.

Anyway, I see it as being a mutually hostile encounter. "Incident" is a much broader encompassing word because it entones an event or occurance. but it's not a non-fight. because the only reason we have for it being a non-fight is that spiderman didn't fare so well. Even though they were both attacking one another.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He got out under his own power without waiting for it to disolve.

It took him time. It hurt him. It wasn't easy. And what is holding Spider-Man to kill him in the mean time ? Hmmm ?
Forgetting what you said before?

Nope. Without wanting to sound arrogant, I always know what I say or have said. You claimed I said that Wolverine was begging for his life. I never said such nonsense.

He was "begging" Spider-Man to stop hitting him. Big difference.

Because that's a sore point among the spiderman fans, as soon as it was shown to go in Wolverine's favor rather than spiderman's the spiderman fans (not you just as a point of reference as to how the definition changed due to circumstances) stopped calling it a fight.

Personally, I never called that a fight, not in the true meaning of the word. Spider-Man was just goofing around, playing a bit with Wolverine, and Wolverine went for the kill.

I am a Spider-Man fan, but I don't mind Wolverine stabbing him. Hey, shit happens.

Don't be mad cuz Spiderman was KO'ed 😆

If spiderman would have attacked Wolverine while he was webbed up that would have only sped up how fast he freed himself since the webbing would be getting strained by Spiderman's "supposed" brutal punches. The same devastating punches that did nothing but put a smile on Logan's face against the gravestone.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Don't be mad cuz Spiderman was KO'ed 😆

If spiderman would have attacked Wolverine while he was webbed up that would have only sped up how fast he freed himself since the webbing would be getting strained by Spiderman's "supposed" brutal punches. The same devastating punches that did nothing but put a smile on Logan's face against the gravestone.

Nobody is mad about what happens in the inconsistent comics. This is not Farseer either by the way....

Spider-man has had troubles with quite a few opponents that he could have beaten with webbing only....But that makes for a boring fight and the comics aren't meant to bore you.

Spider-man has trouble tearing the webbing and he can lift 10 tons. There probably isn't anything around anyone reading this that weighs that much, and if there is it's huge. Wolverine ain't budging 3 tons and he ain't negating the stickiness of the webbing so WHAT is his defense against a ranged weapon that specializes in complete incapacitation. Remember Spider-man has mastered this weapon to the same degree that Wolverine has mastered a sword.

If you think that Wolverines tearing through the webbing in a comic means that it can happen over and over then you must also believe that Spider-man can web up nightcrawler and negate his powers. In the comics dumb stuff happens that doesn't make sense. Wolverine tore through the webbing and none of it even stuck to him anywhere?????????????? Sabertooth rips off his face tearing off Spidey's webbing, but Wolverine transforms it into water?

This discussion isn't about the consistency of the comics it's about who would win this particular fight. That's why the fury file stats couldn't apply here... Not because they're innacurate but because they are non-specific. Wolverine is ranked above Spider-man so that means that he stands a better chance against the Sandman right? What about hydro-man? Challengers abilities' affect and can even negate one another.... But I know that you're already aware of that my friend...... peace 😮‍💨

Wolverine does not stand a better chance than Spiderman against the characters you just mentioned. That isn't the issue though. We're comparing two characters and their abilities. We are also using references from previous comic books to establish what these abilities are exactly. Without looking back at previous comics you can't establish what a character is capable of unless you are looking at the back of a card.. with powers listed. But we all know that's far too vague to base a decision on. We need to look at previous battles to establish a winner. It's unfortunate that comics are inconsistant but... watcha gonna do?

Originally posted by Smaxxer
It took him time. It hurt him. It wasn't easy. And what is holding Spider-Man to kill him in the mean time ? Hmmm ?
Oh this is no CIS spidey? I don't recall seeing that stipulation of CIS being removed. As I've said before non-cis spidey would kill wolverine.

However a major drawback is that unless stipulated CIS is still applicable to the characters nature.

Originally posted by Smaxxer
Nope. Without wanting to sound arrogant, I always know what I say or have said. You claimed I said that Wolverine was begging for his life. I never said such nonsense.

He was "begging" Spider-Man to stop hitting him. Big difference.

Well still you seem to imply that Wolverine was begging for anything. Which he was clearly not. *attatchment*

Originally posted by Smaxxer
Personally, I never called that a fight, not in the true meaning of the word. Spider-Man was just goofing around, playing a bit with Wolverine, and Wolverine went for the kill.
And for some reason Spiderman's infalliable spidersense wasn't working. . . 🙄 Guess spidey ain't so smart when it comes to fighting and tactics, surely a person with a danger sense would take something seriously. Guess he thought his own sense was lieing huh?

Originally posted by Smaxxer
I am a Spider-Man fan, but I don't mind Wolverine stabbing him. Hey, shit happens.
I'm a Spiderman fan as well as a Wolverine fan. Personally I'm ticked off that Wolverine stabbed Spiderman. On their previous encounters Spiderman and Wolverine were being built up for mutual respect for one another. The graveyard fight certainly shows Wolverine respecting Spiderman, and the Rooftop scene Spiderman got mad at an imposter posing as Wolverine.

More recently they've been shown to harbor hard feelings toward one another. Like Spiderman being willing to let Hulk kill Wolverine, and the tower incident and the training room incident.