Wolverine vs. Spider-Man · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Pshhhh all you did was twist around the fact that the feats you were trying to use were PIS/CIS... It was a truly pathetic display.. But I couldn't stop laughing so I kept posting!

You've made that calim but as has been said you still haven't show WHY they are PIS other than your fanboyism "I don't like it therefore it didn't happen."

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Twisting your words??? Me??? I don't twist I'm just reading between the lines, seeing the underlying truth...

I already know yuou hate me, so you don't need to prove it anymore. 🙂

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
How can you prove its appealing to the masses???

BECAUSE ITS A POLL MORON!

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
theres no proof that there wrong

Doesn't need to be. using public opinion is ad populem.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
and that people are jumping on the bandwagon!!!
I can't believe you still don't get it...

I'm surprised you're still trying to cover your ass.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Talk about slow!... perhaps I should draw some pics... ya know get ya a book with big pictures and size 20 font.. Then I can S O U N D out the letters for you!!!

You can try and trick nme all you want it's not going to work.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
http://www.santarosa.edu/~dpeterso/permanenthtml/propaganda/prop_adpopulum.htm
You can't prove this is an AP event

There is a difinite outcome if the two were to fight. Woukldn't there be?

If not why the hell would you try to prove Spiderman would win?

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
as there is no proof that people are following others...

And you got the bandwagon fallacy mixed up with ad populem now. You know NOTHING about debating. . . I'm not surprised though as you proved this in the Goku vs Superman thing.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Theres no peer pressure here.... You can't prove that there opinions are based on there love of a char.../[quote] I don't need to. you still clearly do not understand, you are trying to use the opinions of the populace to prove that Spiderman would win. that is ad populem weather you like it or not.
[QUOTE=5334924]Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
To do that would require you to prove that Wolverine is the clear winner here.../[quote] No, I don't. You still don't understand what ad populem is.
[QUOTE=5334924]Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
I'm not using it as evidence... [/quuote] Yeah you are.
[QUOTE=5334924]Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
I'm using it as a poll... one Where people vote.. to see who they think wins...

this is fine.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
and then the winner is decided on public opinion....

AD POPULEM RIGHT THERE! And you just contradicted yourself.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
I'm not using it as evidence...
and then the winner is decided on public opinion....

You are a liar. As proven right there.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
hmmm Funny that we decided our governments like this... just like in a court of law... where your peers decide your fate.......

and not in science or debate.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Seeing as you can't prove Wolverine wins 100% you can't say these people are following 1 another... they COULD just be deciding themselves based on what they know and have read.....

I don't need to. There is a definite outcome it COULD be Spiderman, it COULD be wolverine.

Saying that the winner is decided by public opinion.

"and then the winner is decided on public opinion...."

Is ad populem. It has NOTHING to do with weather or not the public opinion is right. NOTHING.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
😑No one said it was...

Yeah, you did, liar:

"and then the winner is decided on public opinion...."

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Oh right... so this fight is taking place right now is it??? when are the results coming in??? You tell me when the correct answer arrives...

Even if we haven't found it doesn't mean that it is not there, other wise did atoms come into exitence when we discovered them?

Did germs come into existence when we discovered them?

Or were atoms and germs already around even if we did not know about them?

You don't know ANYTHING about logic either it seems.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Prove this is an AP.... Cause until you can prove that there is a right and wrong answer this is just a discussion based on peoples opinions... /[quote] Then this entire forum is useless. THAT is the entire point of the forums that YOU agreed to by joining the Versus forums. There IS an outcome, that premise is set up in the VS forums. Even if we don't know what it is.
[QUOTE=5334924]Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Cresh you fail to prove anything,

Unlike you who has proven consecutively that you don't know what ad populem is, you don't know what the premise of these forums are, and you don't even know what logic is. You've also proven yourself to be a liar. ALL in THIS post that I am responding to.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Seeing as there has been no irrefutable proof that 1 will defenatly beat the other.

There doesn't need to be that is the accepted premise OF these forums is that there is a definite outcome.

Did atoms come into existence when we found them? or did they exist before hand even without proof of their existence?

You don't know what logic is.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
I used the opinions of people,

In something that has a definte truth to it. . . thus ad populem. You are using opinions as fact.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
like we were voting in a poll... like in a democracy.... Not where whatever cresh says is right, the evil doers who say spider wins must be fanboys trying to force people to vote.. and creating a AP poll.... No cresh... More people think spider wins... thats it...

And then you strawman again.

Wolverine really does beat lobo if fights are a democracy. Nice job. You've proven that Wolverine beats lobo. . .or wait, since THAT is stupid you've proven all of what I've already said. You know nothing.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by willRules
I heard it wasn't cancer but a DNA disease that turns out to actually upgrade his abilities again......from 15 tons to unrevealed amounts so far..................
I say spidey wins this at least 8/10 IMO................

That's what cancer in the Marvel universe is. . look at hulk, the FF and even spiderman. All should have cancer, instead. They are superheros! 😄

Hit_and_Miss I wonder....

WTF is that post... I need glasses after that abomination of quote in quote bold "on off" rubbish... All you done is more twisting and turning to cover the fact that you were wrong...

"Appeal to Audience Bias (Ad Populem): an emotional appeal to the presumed attitudes or beliefs of an audience, under the assumption that the need for evidence is irrelevant"

Again... Until you can prove that one side wins and the other side is wrong due to evidence being ignored it doesn't class as AP....

Face it cresh... All that twist typing won't save you from the basic fact...

Neither side can be proved to be the correct side to support... So AP can't apply.....

But knowing you, "I'll get a You don't know what AP is..." rebuttal...

Try googling big words and understanding them next time...

Oh and I don't hate you... I don't hate anyone really... but no doubt I'm lying again.....

Creshosk Senior Member

Still trying to cover your bitter little ass. sad really ❌

whobdamandog Restricted

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yes you did right there again you exagerated, Jinzin NEVER said 50 feet, YOU exagerated that beyond what HE said.
You also exagerated the outcome of the graveyard fight by saying that Wolverine admited that Spiderman would win.

LMFAO..No jinzin didn't say 50 ft..he said 3 freakin STORIES!!!...LOL..Among the other notable powers you all have added to Wolverine. A list of these powers is as follows.

Wolverine has precog.
Wolverine moves faster than the eye can see.
Wolverine has superhuman agility.

Just to name a few..😆

sam_drugbringer Senior Member

30 feet = three Stories.

TwisterGameX Senior Member

You guyes still at it ?

sam_drugbringer Senior Member

I TOLD them to stop, but nobody listens to me...

scotsmn Snikt!

It's a little known fact that Spiderman had a small crush on Wolverine. His "machismo" made Spiderman think about writing to Wolverine and asking if he'd like to vacation with him. Spiderman then realizes that he's not acting like himself and erases the thought from his head.. but never completely.... I'll look for the issue later

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
30 feet = three Stories.

Hence the exageration up to 50 feet, Jinzin did say 30 feet, but he also posted scans Of Wolverine Jumping 30 feet, when he was attacking some sentinals, and guys with guns, and more sentinals . . .

It's not like he made the claim without reasons or backing it up. So adding another 20 feet that Jinzin never had is as I said hyperbole.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by scotsmn
It's a little known fact that Spiderman had a small crush on Wolverine. His "machismo" made Spiderman think about writing to Wolverine and asking if he'd like to vacation with him. Spiderman then realizes that he's not acting like himself and erases the thought from his head.. but never completely.... I'll look for the issue later

🤨

sam_drugbringer Senior Member

Oh, I thought the exageration was the tree stories.

Anyway, if we held SM acountable for everything he thought, he'd be crazy.

Hit_and_Miss I wonder....

Originally posted by Creshosk
Still trying to cover your bitter little ass. sad really ❌

Yup.... again, you couldn't counter the point made so you try to pass the parcel of blame to me.... Grow up cresh, I exposed your mistake long ago... All you have done is said.."Wrong... But I refuse to prove why..."

😆 don't tell me... you got to get the last word in aswell!!!!

Creshosk Senior Member

yawn

And it continues. . . I already called you on your ad populem, but instead of accepting it klike a man you tried desperately grasping at straws to keep from admiting your mistake.

No surprise though. 🙂

UniOmni Outrageously Dickish

The fact that this thread has continued for this long is a testament to admirable loyalty(misguided) and fanboyism/denial. I seen Hulk/Wolvie arguments brought up, and whoever doesn't take that as PIS/CIS is living in denial. Face it! Wolvie is a 5^3 little runt who can lift 800 lbs, has a healing factor and an adamantium laced(not covered) skeleton. Hulk should've snapped Wolvies neck the first time they met, but the runts got fans.......Sooooooooo that wouldn't have been profitable. Wolvie gets brought up to peoples level when there are crossovers. Simple as that. He shouldn't be able to take a punch from the hulk and survive. But he does, cuz he's Wolvie. Spidey lifts more than the runt can hope to, but in their fights thats forgotten or some such. He's faster too. But like i said before, wolvie somehow brings people down to his level, or gets a quick stat upgrade.
Spidey wins, with relative ease too. Let the thread die

Hit_and_Miss I wonder....

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
😆 don't tell me... you got to get the last word in aswell!!!!

Originally posted by Creshosk
yawn
And it continues. . . I already called you on your ad populem, but instead of accepting it klike a man you tried desperately grasping at straws to keep from admiting your mistake.
No surprise though. 🙂

I wouldn't mind if you could actually back up what you say... But 3 times I quoted different websites for there definition of AP... all you did was claim I was wrong... without a valid reason.. or a definition... Just;

"Your wrong... Its all about Public opinion... Opinion isn't fact"

Now your just desperate for the last word.... What would GS say???

Bah... now you can't come up with anything to defend your flawed point other then to say "Your covering your ass..." ❌ I'm the one who proved my point.....

Shame.... and I heard good things about your debating abilities...
Perhaps this is just one of those times you were wrong... We all are sometimes... Better luck next time Cresh....

No hard feeling huh???

Creshosk Senior Member

Quoting something and not understanding what you're quoting doesn't do much for you. You've proven my case more than you realize by quoting them. 😆

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by UniOmni
The fact that this thread has continued for this long is a testament to admirable loyalty(misguided) and fanboyism/denial. I seen Hulk/Wolvie arguments brought up, and whoever doesn't take that as PIS/CIS is living in denial. Face it! Wolvie is a 5^3 little runt who can lift 800 lbs, has a healing factor and an adamantium laced(not covered) skeleton. Hulk should've snapped Wolvies neck the first time they met,

And you ashow your ignorance ogf the character.

Despite the way you WANT wolverine to be doesn't change the way he IS in the comics. You have to break adamantium inorder to break wolverines neck.

Usually the fights end before Hulk can get mad enough to kill him.

But if they were to fight with the conditions of the forums I have no doubt hulk could get mad enough (and thus strong enough) to kill wolverine 10/10. But he still takes Hulk's punches until hulk gets too strong for Wolverine.

Originally posted by UniOmni
but the runts got fans.......Sooooooooo that wouldn't have been profitable.

You're joking me. . . Wolverine had zero poularity when he first came out. It wouldn't have made a difference if he had been killed. it wasn't until like the late 80's early ninties that something like what you said would become true. And then despite that they have killed "wolverine" precicely to get sales. But by that timeWolverine had already done other feats to show his durability was higher than you give it credit.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Wolvie gets brought up to peoples level when there are crossovers. Simple as that.

Funny how he's actually higher in his solo adventures than when encounters occur eh? But you would have known that had you read his series.

Originally posted by UniOmni
He shouldn't be able to take a punch from the hulk and survive.

Why not? He's taken such hits long beofre he gained popularity.

Originally posted by UniOmni
But he does, cuz he's Wolvie.

Which entails the healing factor. That's why he takes the shots.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Spidey lifts more than the runt can hope to, but in their fights thats forgotten or some such.

No, it's just pretty much not a factor because Wolverine takes hits from people stronger than spiderman.

Originally posted by UniOmni
He's faster too. But like i said before, wolvie somehow brings people down to his level, or gets a quick stat upgrade.

Covered this faulty line of thought.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Spidey wins, with relative ease too.

Unproven.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Let the thread die

Let the thread die with my parting shot because I don't want to be proven wrong. . right?

Hit_and_Miss I wonder....

Originally posted by Creshosk
Quoting something and not understanding what you're quoting doesn't do much for you. You've proven my case more than you realize by quoting them. 😆

Perhaps you should explain that AP means then....

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Perhaps you should explain that AP means then....

Pssh, you didn't undserstand properly from the dictionaries, and I've already explained it myself which you still failed to understand.