Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

ummmmm here's the thing Wolverine did have his claws out,,,,,the entire fight, in fact the only point he didn't is when he hit spidey in the face, If he wanted, spidey would've been dead it's that simple, hell even in the stalemate I have a hard time believing that spiderman could or would break wolverine's neck at all, but I have an even harder time believing he could or would break wolverine's neck before wolverine popped his claws through spidermans skull. Spiderman could've died twice during that fight, and he admittdly said/thought he put everything into that fight, and I believe it any other time a punch with as much energy as he hit charley with should've downright obliterated the human he hit, but she was still in one peice (and if i remember right, still barely alive for a few moments.).
It's like it was stated before all your praise for a character who deserves lots of praise doesn't change the fact that wolverine has a more than decent chance at striking spidey down.

yes but that jab wouldn't be a jab but defined as a hook or a cross which would mean not punching in a straight way. A jab is jsut throwing your hand forward which is why it can be thrown 300 x or 500 x depending on the boxer of fightres endurance. Power punches are defined with swinging from the side or underneath using your body mass behing the punch! A jab has only the force of it's weight behind it and not the body's weight.

An experinced fighter can also know what kind of punch is going to be thrown by the movement of the opponent. That's why most successful boxers are counter punchers who use their opponents wieght against them. Karate and judo use this style too. Wolverine being a cocky and over confident guy would attack first leaving him open for a counter attack. I do a lot of fighting so Iam talking from experince too. I always watch my opponents arms for knowing where an attack will come from.

you're experienced, but you watch for the arms? that's something I used to do when I didn't know what i was doing, watching the torso and not focusing on exact body parts makes anticipation soooooo much easier.

Thank you jinzin, you beat me to it.

Also your description of a jab sounds like something a very poor fighter would do.

Wolverin may be cocky, but he does not make mistakes as far as his fighting goes. Please stop talking about him like he's a white belt at whatever class you attend.

Dear, dear dami, please stop with the boxing and martial arts talk, you are making yourself look unknowledgeable to those who know fighting quite well.

I too, speak from experience.

Good for you! I'll buy you a cup of coffee when we meet up. So why were boxers liek Naseem and Sugar Ray robinson such great fighters? Yes Tyson was a puncer and not really a counter puncher as he came forward but then again he burnt himself out but since our dear friend wolverine probably never gets tired as his body continues to heal itself (What a load of rubbish) he could go on for ever! That's where comics can be a bit over the top. N in the movie Xmen, when he got shot, he had to go down before taken a few minutes to recover!

Oh yeah? YOu might be heavy weight champion of the world but when you have to fight in brawls where it can be between 20 to 40 punters at a time and anything goes, you got that split second to think. Why does DD use his opponents heart beats and stuff to determine when they are going to attack? Oh Im talking crap? Mr know it all!
If it has helped me in many life threatening environments apart from the ring, trust me, I know what I'm talking about. You can say whatever you what , dont mean a jack sh..t to me. I speak of hands cus I dont do judo or karate and even when I've had to deal with kick boxers and martial arts experts at some of the clubs I've worked at, you still got to be observant! Or is that a lie wise guy? You fight with your eyes closed? You dont pay attention to what your opponent's going to do to you? You're so confident like Wolverine it dont mean jack what ever he throws at you? You can take it? Even a bottle on the head? Or a knife to the back or sides? What kind of experience you talking about? Which sport and what methods?

Ok dude, don't talk like a white belt and then attack me cause i pointed out your blaring misconceptions.

I look at my opponents shoulders, not there hands. The sholder moves first. Since your such the brawler i guess you'll get to try it soon.

You misconceptions of what a jab is was simply too much for me to ignore. You said you don't put your weight behind it, that's rubbish. No correct punch is all arm, not a single one, and if that's what your doing then you've been taught wrong.

20 to 40 fighters? The most I've ever taken is five so I don't konw.

What sport methods? None. Fighting to me is not a sport. I beleive everyone has a responsibility to know how to defend themselves and those close to them. You're simply not a man if you don't. If you want to know what training I have, it's mixture (mma style), with heavy boxing.

Merse, you're talking to a guy who thinks Rhino Vs Thing would be a draw because according to him, they are of "equal power and size".

-AC

LOL!

Thanks for the heads up Alpha. I guess those fights he's talking about with all them "punters" have left our friend a little out of wack.

Would Wolverine be able to break free if he was webbed down(Assuming that his claws were incapacitated)? I honestly don't know the answer, so if someone could tell me that would be great. But if Wolverine can't break through the web, couldn't Spiderman web his arms and legs (and eyes and whatever else he feels like) and then really just let him have it, you know, start tearing his body apart?

so size dont matter? How come s Lennox Lewis was the only recent guy to take Vitali Kalistrov all the way to the latter rounds of the heavy weight boxing fight before it was stopped? Weren't they about the same weight? Huh? Lennox was just 2 inces shortter but was about the same size.

Yeah whatever, size dont matter?Why do they have diffenrent weights in boxing and amatuer wrestling? If you wanna gang on me, it's all good1 It takes more to deal with my stuff!

So you watch the shoulders huh? Thats in boxing alone I presume? What if he throws an uppercut? Which part actually moves first? I think its the knees MR know it all! How do you throw a jab? Please tell us unlearned ! How do you throw your jab? Please educate me please! I know whaT i WAS THOUGHT and I dont need you to tell me what is right or wrong in boxing cus I dont know you from jack adams! Its your opinion and urs alone!

How comes The thing goes along way wtih the hulk? Are they not about the same weight and power zone? Hulk can lift over a 100 tons and the thing 80 Tons! Even Thor, he's about 90 tons! So aint that about equal in size and weight dumb .....?

sO FIGHTING IS NOT A SPORT? What do you call boxing and all those martial arts fights like kick boxing and thia boxing? Its a love game? Defending yourself you say ? Well as a night club guard I was defending people MR smart! Defending others from those too strong from them! I work with the police too and trust me mor...n, Their have been those who have been shot, or killed in the environment where I've worked.

If you dont like my mails , keep off it! It aint personal so stop tripping on yourself and getting your buddy to join you. If size doesn't matter why do Olympic events in contact sports have weight categories? From Boxing to wrestling to karate and so and so?

No it's about power! I've seen supermiddleweights knock down heavyweights but 10 x out of 10, its mostly the other way round! If you dont like my treads put it on your ignore list!

its meant to be a chat line but if it's dissing you want, I guess you're on the wrong chat line! There are other chats there for you Mr know it all. Even the Host says no dissing and here you folks go and turn the topic into something else! You sucha good professional in fighting and yet you diss sportsmen! Fighting is about defending yourself? What if you saw an old lady being harassed by five youths? You'd walk away wouldn't you?

Chicken? AS long as it's not you they're picking on? Listen mouthmouth, I've risked my life time and time again for those I didn't know, even white boys when they were having their head kicked in by a bunch of black and asian guys (not once but twice) at night clubs when others stood by and watched until the coppers arrived! And that's no BS! Ive had a black eye and other injuries but I'm still healthy and looking good!

I come here to enjoy myself! If you dont like my threads, clear off like the hosts say! Abide by the rules Tom and Jerry! You can talk all you want, for all I know, you might be 65 years old with a walking stick to scare the rats in your hood! You wanna turn this into a dissing match rather than a chat line on comics? What are you ? A wanna be comic?

Originally posted by nigel45
Would Wolverine be able to break free if he was webbed down(Assuming that his claws were incapacitated)? I honestly don't know the answer, so if someone could tell me that would be great. But if Wolverine can't break through the web, couldn't Spiderman web his arms and legs (and eyes and whatever else he feels like) and then really just let him have it, you know, start tearing his body apart?

His hands will have to be in a very uncompromising position to keep him from shredding the webbing.

Actually, the web dissolving thing reminded me of a pinup of Spiderman vs. Trapster where both got each other stuck and Trapster says something in the respect of "at least mine dissolves in about two hours."

maybe it's just me but i have a bit of trouble believeing a bouncer would come and discuss comic book battles,,,,,but like i said maybe that's just me....
and maybe you've taken too many hits to the head to keep from sounding like your 10. "Mr. Smart"? WTF?

Anyways. I agree with radioboy, spiderman would have to catch wolverine where his hands are out like a crusifiction for wolverine not to be able to shred the webbing.

Originally posted by radioboy121
His hands will have to be in a very uncompromising position to keep him from shredding the webbing.

Actually, the web dissolving thing reminded me of a pinup of Spiderman vs. Trapster where both got each other stuck and Trapster says something in the respect of "at least mine dissolves in about two hours."

WTF. I go to sleep and get dissed. Shhhhh.

Anyway.

Catching Logan in an uncomprimising position. That's near impossible seeing as how he's not exactly the type to let it happen and even if it did he could simply retract and then unsheath his claws so as to poke holes threw it giving him enough to work with.

Well, assuming that it were possible (and I know assumption is a dangerous thing in this forum) could Spiderman do it?

What ? Of course Spider-Man can do that. Give me one good reason why he couldn't. Spider-Man can lift ten tons (and sometimes more), he bends steel and hits through a brick wall.

Wolverine is just slightly stronger than a normal man. That's like comparing an infant with a grown up. He can protest all he wants, he won't break free from Spider-Man's steel grip.

Unless of course the usual bad writing is involved... and it probably will.

I believe spiderman could beat Wolverine...in theory.

in theory,,,,maybe, i don't see how spidermans strength will help him when he gets gutted though.