Originally posted by jinzin
nope, the fight could go either way easily. I have no doubts about that whatsoever, just everyone's trying to make it seem like wolverine's a non factor cause he isn't as strong or fast as spidey which simply isn't true.
But when he makes no mistakes, Wolverine won't be much of a problem (and if he's getting on Spider-Man's nerves, well, there's always the web-in-the-eye trick 😉 ).
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine isn't as tough as he was in the 80's so save a few appearances he has in fact been down graded.StrawNilla you can think what you want but Spider-man's speed is not so far above the street level martial artist to make a real difference in a fight... unless you think we should ignore 90% of Spider-man's showings against the likes of DD, Iron Fist, Shang Chi and Wolverine.
Spider-Man's reaction time to impending attacks (relfexes) is 30-40 times faster than a regular human....just above a Martial Artist?
Comic book writers have always put the Martial artists on a pedastol, especially against Spidey. C'mon, Spidey's way more agile than they have any hope of becoming, much faster, much stronger, much more durable, etc. I'm going to leave that logic as is and let you pick up the pieces from there Srank, honestly, I get close to cringing whenever I hear someone say that someone like DD or Wolvie could beat Spidey because of what they saw in the comics. But, if you'd rather use the comic medium where people a few steps above the average joe walk away from a thermonuclear blast full on only to get kicked across a room by a peak human a few issues later, well, that's you.
"use the comic medium where people a few steps above the average joe walk away from a thermonuclear blast full on only to get kicked across a room by a peak human a few issues later, well, that's you."
isn't that what makes comics fun/ if there was a "sure bet" for any comic fight between two decent comic book characters there would never be a reason to read any other fight than the initial one since we would already know the outcome, common and lighten up will ya?
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Logically, one hit to the head from Spiderman should knock Wolverine out. And then he can web him to the traffic light with his pants down.
I doubt that wolverine skull is unbreakable and he heals very fast...I'm beating Spidey would break his hand on Logans skull...though Spidey may be able to web Logan and slam him into a wall or something...but I still see Wolverine winning this one though. -MS
Originally posted by Mainstream
I doubt that wolverine skull is unbreakable and he heals very fast...I'm beating Spidey would break his hand on Logans skull...though Spidey may be able to web Logan and slam him into a wall or something...but I still see Wolverine winning this one though. -MS
And logically, what the hell is Wolverine doing taking blows from Hulk without taking incredibly severe internal damage?
Aside from the healing, bones, and claws, he's just a slightly enhanced man. A blow from a wooden baseball bat should be able to knock him out.
thank you swanky tuna. I'd like to eat you! for lunch.
IF YOU'RE REALLY TUNA. That's why if we're not talking about reality but Marvel comic rules then this same spiderman can dodge bullets making him very fast indeed and I dont believe wolverine can throw a punch faster than a speeding bullet which would theoritically make him faster than superman1 Anyway, I still believe if we are bending to Marvel comic rules and ideollogy (excuse the spelling) then just as flash can run and dodge spiderman being so fast then spiderman can avoid wolveine's punches.
You can thit what you cant hit! Now, Marvel rules can be different but then again how far do we go when we're adults and try to reason with some logic? Now I realize why my friends diss me by saying I'm reaing childish things cus in reality you cant argue about stuff like this where facts and rules have no giude line.
"Tell me, how would having adamantium bones protect Wolverine from being knocked out?"
well it protects his brain from serious damage like a helmet,,,,,but you're correct in the real world his brain would be sloshin around inside his skull.....but hey it's comics. ya know?
"And logically, what the hell is Wolverine doing taking blows from Hulk without taking incredibly severe internal damage?"
Ummm well it's been stated in a couple of their fights, that wolverine's internals get turned to jelly on impact (the skeletal strucure's the only thing keeping him toegether), however, His healing factor when kicked into overdrive while fighting the hulk heals his internals as soon as he hits the ground.
"Aside from the healing, bones, and claws, he's just a slightly enhanced man. A blow from a wooden baseball bat should be able to knock him out"
I don't really agree with that, but hey if you think that's ridiculous, wolverine's been hit by he hulk when he didn't have his adamantium, and he kept on comin....go figure.
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine isn't as tough as he was in the 80's so save a few appearances he has in fact been down graded.
StrawNilla you can think what you want but Spider-man's speed is not so far above the street level martial artist to make a real difference in a fight... unless you think we should ignore 90% of Spider-man's showings against the likes of DD, Iron Fist, Shang Chi and Wolverine.
If it's crap writing (and I do not doubt that it is) than you're right, we probably should.
Spider-Man's reaction time to impending attacks (relfexes) is 30-40 times faster than a regular human....just above a Martial Artist?
Comic book writers have always put the Martial artists on a pedastol, especially against Spidey. C'mon, Spidey's way more agile than they have any hope of becoming, much faster, much stronger, much more durable, etc. I'm going to leave that logic as is and let you pick up the pieces from there Srank, honestly, I get close to cringing whenever I hear someone say that someone like DD or Wolvie could beat Spidey because of what they saw in the comics. But, if you'd rather use the comic medium where people a few steps above the average joe walk away from a thermonuclear blast full on only to get kicked across a room by a peak human a few issues later, well, that's you.
SHORT FALL of it is you cant hit what you cant see! You cant hit what can move faster than you and has an early warning system! Like the AWACS the US airforce use to warn its fighters in air combat or like the Isreali Airforce used in defeating the Arab airforce during the 3 Day war! They had MIGs and so and so, fast planes but with an early warning radar system, they had a big advantage!
I know the bully boys will gang up again on me and my examples so come on as BUSH said! Bring it on but no swearing! This is a chat line!
FOR ARGUMENTS SAKE, When wolverine fought one of his arch enemies, Mr. X, the guy with tatooes and loves fighting the very best and has telephatic senses he couldn't really hit him because the guy could see his moves and tell exactly what he was going to do. Now that guy was a normal human being and wouldn't spiderman be 40 times faster than him? Even if it was ten times faster. So if that guy could block all wolvies moves shouldn't someone faster be able to do more?
i REALLY DONT CARE WHO WINS ANYMORE COS FANBOYS HAVE SPLOIT IT WITH THEIR DISSING! Who cares? Until they do a battle of the fittest what does it matter?