Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
whirly you should read this thread from a couple pages back... see what you make of it...Who do you think wins out of 10...
I posted long ago in this thread I cannot believe anything is still needed to be said on it 😂 Thats the problem with the Vs forum, unless your trolling it you see all the threads in your first 5 months here.
Originally posted by Creshosk
50:50 in a brawl? how does that work?
Wolvie hangs with the hulk in beserker mode, Spidey can take on the whole fantastic four he has done before brawling. Both are extreme examples and show that either one could take it in any given situation with a little luck.
Spidey is more versatile and has ranged attacks, if he avoids a brawl he has the advantage.
Originally posted by Mr _WhirlysplatThe only problem with the brawl thing is that Spiderman can't do anything to effect Wolverine. He can smack him around but that's not going to do anything but wear spiderman out.
Wolvie hangs with the hulk in beserker mode, Spidey can take on the whole fantastic four he has done before brawling. Both are extreme examples and show that either one could take it in any given situation with a little luck.
And when Spiderman starts to get tired fatigue will set in and he'll start to get sloppy. And then, and only then will Wolverine be able to "tag" Spiderman, and of course once he does that that impedes spiderman's preformance and eventually Wolverine would win.
Originally posted by Mr _WhirlysplatThe only problewm here is that the webbing is harder to use long range. And Wolverine has gotten out of webbing 5 times at least. Which still leads to the problem of: "What is Spiderman going to do to Wolverine?"
Spidey is more versatile and has ranged attacks, if he avoids a brawl he has the advantage.
50/50 in a brawl? When one slash from Wolverine can spell death/dismemberment/open wounds? Hulk can only hang because he has so much flesh on his body and can heal so quickly. Spidy is NOT meaty and heals nowhere near the speed of Hulk. He's just not equipped for battle against Wolverine's type of character.
I give it like 90/10 Wolverine in a brawl.
If they're fighting in a place where there are a lot of things to swing from and stuff to toss around then it's in favor of Spiderman I guess. Maybe throwing enough chairs and trashcans at Wolverine will make him go home.
Originally posted by Creshosk
The only problem with the brawl thing is that Spiderman can't do anything to effect Wolverine. He can smack him around but that's not going to do anything but wear spiderman out.And when Spiderman starts to get tired fatigue will set in and he'll start to get sloppy. And then, and only then will Wolverine be able to "tag" Spiderman, and of course once he does that that impedes spiderman's preformance and eventually Wolverine would win.
The only problewm here is that the webbing is harder to use long range. And Wolverine has gotten out of webbing 5 times at least. Which still leads to the problem of: "What is Spiderman going to do to Wolverine?"
...How is backhanding Wolverine 30 feet away going to "wear Spiderman out"? Everytime Wolvie comes in for an attack, Spiderman can slap him away again.
Don't get wrong or anything. Cuz I know I get exhausted when I have to effortless slap an opponent away.
Or, wait. No I wouldn't. The one correct thing about the Secret Wars arc, was that scene where Spidey backhands Wolvie. That's exactly how this fight would occur if he was really trying and not joking around like he always does.
Originally posted by scotsmn
50/50 in a brawl? When one slash from Wolverine can spell death/dismemberment/open wounds? Hulk can only hang because he has so much flesh on his body and can heal so quickly. Spidy is NOT meaty and heals nowhere near the speed of Hulk. He's just not equipped for battle against Wolverine's type of character.I give it like 90/10 Wolverine in a brawl.
If they're fighting in a place where there are a lot of things to swing from and stuff to toss around then it's in favor of Spiderman I guess. Maybe throwing enough chairs and trashcans at Wolverine will make him go home.
You just said it right there. "Spidey is NOT meaty". You're right. He's not. He's a FAR SMALLER TARGET than Hulk. Especially since Spiderman is leagues above Hulk in speed, reflexes, and agility. Wolverine should never be able to hit him, even at such close quarters.
Yes, even in a brawl, I'd give them both AT LEAST 50/50. Only because Wolverine can heal, like always. If it weren't for that (and Spidey's non-chalant attitude towards fights), Wolverine would go down to Spidey IN A BRAWL.
Originally posted by MetalmanxAnd what's that going to do?
...How is backhanding Wolverine 30 feet away going to "wear Spiderman out"? Everytime Wolvie comes in for an attack, Spiderman can slap him away again.
It's not going to injure Wolverine .
Originally posted by MetalmanxHold you arm out straight in front of you. How long can you hold it out there before it gets tired?
Don't get wrong or anything. Cuz I know I get exhausted when I have to effortless slap an opponent away.
Originally posted by MetalmanxAnd again, what's that going to do?
Or, wait. No I wouldn't. The one correct thing about the Secret Wars arc, was that scene where Spidey backhands Wolvie. That's exactly how this fight would occur if he was really trying and not joking around like he always does.
Knocking someone away isn't a win. It's not going to leave any lasting effect on Wolverine. Guess who's going to get tired first?
Here's a hint for ya, it ain't the one with the stronger healing factor.
Originally posted by MetalmanxAnd with the healing factor, how does he go down 50% of the time?
You just said it right there. "Spidey is NOT meaty". You're right. He's not. He's a FAR SMALLER TARGET than Hulk. Especially since Spiderman is leagues above Hulk in speed, reflexes, and agility. Wolverine should never be able to hit him, even at such close quarters.Yes, even in a brawl, I'd give them both AT LEAST 50/50. Only because Wolverine can heal, like always. If it weren't for that (and Spidey's non-chalant attitude towards fights), Wolverine would go down to Spidey IN A BRAWL.
Originally posted by Creshosk
And what's that going to do?It's not going to injure Wolverine .
Hold you arm out straight in front of you. How long can you hold it out there before it gets tired?
And again, what's that going to do?
Knocking someone away isn't a win. It's not going to leave any lasting effect on Wolverine. Guess who's going to get tired first?
Here's a hint for ya, it ain't the one with the stronger healing factor.
Wow, way to REALLY twist my words there. I never said anything about injuring Wolverine that way. But what the hell can Wolverine do to further his victory in the fight if he's constantly being effortlessly swatted away?
And when did I make any mention about Spiderman constantly keeping his hand up? He's not a freakin moron. He'll just put his hand down, like NORMAL people do when they're not using their hands. When Wolverine returns from his little trip, Spiderman will then RAISE his hand and smack him away again.
Hell, if he wanted to, he could really sock Wolverine, knocking him a considerable distance away, probably a few blocks. Spidey could go get some food in that time, or take a piss, or anything like that.
Spiderman has fought for days before, consecutively, without stopping. Something tells me he's not going to be too entirely fatigued after swatted Wolverine away like an annoying gnat.
Originally posted by MetalmanxI never said you said that it would injure wolverine. I pointed out that it would not.
Wow, way to REALLY twist my words there. I never said anything about injuring Wolverine that way.
Originally posted by MetalmanxAs I said, Spiderman tires first, he gets sloppy, looses speed. It's really not that hard a concept.
But what the hell can Wolverine do to further his victory in the fight if he's constantly being effortlessly swatted away?
Originally posted by MetalmanxYou didn't. try it though. It's a simple task that requires little to no effort, does it not?
And when did I make any mention about Spiderman constantly keeping his hand up?
Originally posted by MetalmanxYou completely missed the point.
He's not a freakin moron. He'll just put his hand down, like NORMAL people do when they're not using their hands.
Originally posted by MetalmanxTry it.
When Wolverine returns from his little trip, Spiderman will then RAISE his hand and smack him away again.
Originally posted by MetalmanxAnd forfeit the match. Nice.
Hell, if he wanted to, he could really sock Wolverine, knocking him a considerable distance away, probably a few blocks. Spidey could go get some food in that time, or take a piss, or anything like that.
Originally posted by MetalmanxWolverine has also fought for days.
Spiderman has fought for days before, consecutively, without stopping. Something tells me he's not going to be too entirely fatigued after swatted Wolverine away like an annoying gnat.
Wolverine's healing factor is better, he will not tire first.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterKMCCVS beg to differ.
Spiderman doesn't forfeit if he's out of location.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterAnd now you resort to trying to discredit me . . AGAIN. 🙄
You are saying e heals BEFORE the damage taken
Yeah you start off with an exageration. I never said that.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterOh so now his healing factor is a plot device? . . . AGAIN?
with no logic to support your premise, but a healing factor that is always a plot device and is highly inconsistant.
Sorry, your'e not discarding it, how about if we discard Spiderman's superstrength in return?
So desperate. . keep grasping at those straws. . you might find one that keeps you from drownding. . .
Originally posted by Creshoskthere is more than one way of saying things, stop being dense. Spiderman forfeits by knocking him out of location? tsk tsk
KMCCVS beg to differ.And now you resort to trying to discredit me . . AGAIN. 🙄
Yeah you start off with an exageration. I never said that.
Oh so now his healing factor is a plot device? . . . AGAIN?
Sorry, your'e not discarding it, how about if we discard Spiderman's superstrength in return?
So desperate. . keep grasping at those straws. . you might find one that keeps you from drownding. . .
If you are saying he can't damage him then you are saying he heals prior to the damage.
Its the truth, never mad me desperate. You are just copying my phrases.