Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
there is more than one way of saying things, stop being dense. Spiderman forfeits by knocking him out of location? tsk tsk

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
If you are saying he can't damage him then you are saying he heals prior to the damage.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Its the truth, never mad me desperate. You are just copying my phrases.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
there is more than one way of saying things, stop being dense.

😉

The only thing Spiderman could do is irretate Wolverine till he just bitched slaped him or something....

You think wolverine can beat lobo don't you?

Oh and cresh I'll be back, unlike you I'm human I need rest. 😛

I know Wolverine could take Spiderman

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You think wolverine can beat lobo don't you?

Oh and cresh I'll be back, unlike you I'm human I need rest. 😛

im sorry but i think it would have to be spiderman any day! i dont really do comics and cartoonz but i dont know of any other mutants that can climb up walls or out!?

🙄 yeah thats why this thread lives...because Of spidey fan....nevermind..just that...well read your own post.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
🙄 yeah thats why this thread lives...because Of spidey fan....nevermind..just that...well read your own post.

You beat me to pointing that out.

yeah this thread is still going on.

Merc, Cre, Jin, Twister everybody here. even C

Originally posted by Creshosk
No, giving him the wall is giving the advantage to Spiderman. Makeing no assumptions aobut environment keeps it neutral.

OR are you saying Spiderman NEEDS the wall? I personally thought he was better than that.

If you say : no walls for Spider-Man, you are giving him a little handicap. Nothing he can't handle, mind you 😉

But still a handicap.

But hey lets fight furiously to give Spiderman the advantage, what ever it takes to make spiderman win.

Notice how I'm not really arguing to give Wolverine the advantages?

Originally posted by who?-kid
I'm not going so far to claim he actually NEEDS it, but it will come in handy. Don't forget he is a wall crawler after all, climbing walls, bouncing from wall to wall, well it IS part of his usual fighting strategy.

If you say : no walls for Spider-Man, you are giving him a little handicap. Nothing he can't handle, mind you 😉

But still a handicap.

🙄

Originally posted by who?-kid
Or let's just let them fight in a place with NO walls whatsoever, whatever it takes to make Wolverine win lol./[quote] As opposed to whatever it takes for Spiderman to win. 😉
[QUOTE=5394063]Originally posted by who?-kid
Yes, but you are giving Spider-Man disadvantages.

Sound fair?

Originally posted by Creshosk
No it's not, Why not give Wolverine a 50 ton adamantium tank? Otherwise you're giveing him a handicap and not allowing him to use his tank driving skills.

No I'm not not, I'm just not GIVING him advantages. Cause I could give him his city and Wolverine is in a 50 ton adamantium tank.
Sound fair?

Ignoring that is clearly taking away some of his powers.

But a 50 ton adamantium tank... never seen that in a Wolverine comic. Giving that to Wolverine is giving him a huge advantage (well, he sure can use it when fighting Spider-Man lol).

Originally posted by who?-kid
Nah, bad comparison. I know what you are saying, but it's just not a good comparison. Spider-Man climbs walls all the time, and bounces of them while fighting. It's in almost EVERY comic. It's an essentially part of his powers, a part of the way he fights.

Ignoring that is clearly taking away some of his powers.

But a 50 ton adamantium tank... never seen that in a Wolverine comic. Giving that to Wolverine is giving him a huge advantage (well, he sure can use it when fighting Spider-Man lol).

Superheroes have powers that they may not get to use in every battle.

The only factors that should be included are factors that they DO use in every battle. Or would still be available to them in any situation regardless of local.

We can put them in an enclosed sewer if you want, then he can climb on the walls to his hearts content. But since walls are not part of EVERY environment why would we assume that they are part of the current given environment?How about if we put it in a dark jungle and Spiderman doesn't know where Wolverine is? That way Wolverine ccan use his keen animal senses, hey you wouldn't want to deny him use of his power would you? and hell trhere are palm trees for spiderman to climb in.

Does that sound fair?

Originally posted by Creshosk
I still don't see how not giving him an advantage is the same as giving him a disadvantage.

Superheroes have powers that they may not get to use in every battle.

We can put them in an enclosed sewer if you want, then he can climb on the walls to his hearts content. But since walls are not part of EVERY environment why would we assume that they are part of the current given environment?

Don't underestimate Spider-Man in the woods either. You are making a mistake if you think : Hah, Wolverines natural habitat, now it's payback time Spidey !

Like SM said once while swinging from tree to tree : Tarzan can learn a thing or two of me 🙂

How about if we put it in a dark jungle and Spiderman doesn't know where Wolverine is? That way Wolverine ccan use his keen animal senses, hey you wouldn't want to deny him use of his power would you? and hell trhere are palm trees for spiderman to climb in.

Does that sound fair?

Originally posted by who?-kid
Giving Spider-Man something to climb on (no, not MJ) is not giving him an advantage, that's just an essential part of his powers.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Sure, but in this fight, we assume every fighter uses every aspect of his powers.

Originally posted by who?-kid
You are concentrating too hard on the word "walls". For all I care, it can be a huge rock, or a tree, or whatever.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Don't underestimate Spider-Man in the woods either. You are making a mistake if you think : Hah, Wolverines natural habitat, now it's payback time Spidey !

Originally posted by who?-kid
Like SM said once while swinging from tree to tree : Tarzan can learn a thing or two of me 🙂

Originally posted by who?-kid
Hey, why doesn't Spider-Man know where Wolverine is ? Now THAT's giving Wolverine an advantage.

Okay, how about this ?

(Spider-Man defender is known as SM-def., Wolverine-defender is known as Wolv.-def.)

Wolv.-def. : So that settles it, Wolverine wins !
SM-def. : No way man, what’s Wolverine gonna do ? If Spider-Man jumps and climbs some high wall, Wolverine can’t reach him, hah !
Wolv.-def. : Sorry, no walls allowed.
SM-def. : What ? Why not, you must be joking !
Wolv.-def. : Nope, no walls allowed.
SM-def. : But that’s how he fights most of the times ! He kicks ass, jumps from wall to will, climbs walls or buildings, he..
Wolv.-def. : Erm, no buildings allowed either...
SM-def. : What ?? Come on now, you are really pushing it.
Wolv.-def. : I am not. No building, no walls. Live with it.
SM-def. : Oh whatever, like Spider-Man actually needs walls. He just grabs a heavy object and throws it at Wolverine. Won’t kill him, but he ain’t strong enough to free himself so..
Wolv.def. : Oh yeah, I forgot, no heavy objects either. They are plot devices, you see.
SM-def. : Sigh... ok who needs heavy objects. Spider-Man is still strong enough to drown Wolverine somewhere, Wolverine isn’t strong enough to break free from..
Wolv. def. : AND no water. Can’t have that. So no walls, no buildings, no heavy objects, no water. Sorry, but we have to stay objective
SM-def. (reaches for a very heavy object...)

Originally posted by who?-kid
Okay, how about this ?

[b](Spider-Man defender is known as SM-def., Wolverine-defender is known as Wolv.-def.)

Wolv.-def. : So that settles it, Wolverine wins !
SM-def. : No way man, what’s Wolverine gonna do ? If Spider-Man jumps and climbs some high wall, Wolverine can’t reach him, hah !
Wolv.-def. : Sorry, no walls allowed.
SM-def. : What ? Why not, you must be joking !
Wolv.-def. : Nope, no walls allowed.
SM-def. : But that’s how he fights most of the times ! He kicks ass, jumps from wall to will, climbs walls or buildings, he..
Wolv.-def. : Erm, no buildings allowed either...
SM-def. : What ?? Come on now, you are really pushing it.
Wolv.-def. : I am not. No building, no walls. Live with it.
SM-def. : Oh whatever, like Spider-Man actually needs walls. He just grabs a heavy object and throws it at Wolverine. Won’t kill him, but he ain’t strong enough to free himself so..
Wolv.def. : Oh yeah, I forgot, no heavy objects either. They are plot devices, you see.
SM-def. : Sigh... ok who needs heavy objects. Spider-Man is still strong enough to drown Wolverine somewhere, Wolverine isn’t strong enough to break free from..
Wolv. def. : AND no water. Can’t have that. So no walls, no buildings, no heavy objects, no water. Sorry, but we have to stay objective
SM-def. (reaches for a very heavy object...) [/B]

Oh is that how you see it?

😂

I still don't see why Spiderman just happens to have whatever he needs.

Don't you find it ridiculous to give Spiderman whatever he happens to need? Regardless of need it just happens to be there. Be it trains, cars sources of water, walls or buildings.

Why give him just what he needs? That's not very fair is it?

What if they fight in an environment that doesn't have any of the things listed?

Is Spiderman going to whine like a little ***** like the fanboy's in this thread are?

"No! We HAVE to go fight where there are cars and buildings and lots of walls."
"Why don't we just fight here bub!"
"Because it's NO FAIR! you're denying me something I normally use."
"You mean only when its actually available right?
"No! I always use it!"
"You didn't use any cars in our fight in the graveyard."
"That's different!"
"OR when you thought I was an imposter on the rooftop.
"That doesn't count!"
"Or when we were in the sewer."
"Neither does that!"
"Or whe n Beyonder made us fight."
"THAT DOESN'T COUNT EITHER!"
"Or in the training room."
"I KIL U!!!1!1!1!!!1eleventiy one!!1!"

Yeah somehow I don't see the fight as going down that way. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh is that how you see it?

😂

I still don't see why Spiderman just happens to have whatever he needs.

Don't you find it ridiculous to give Spiderman whatever he happens to need? Regardless of need it just happens to be there. Be it trains, cars sources of water, walls or buildings.

Why give him just what he needs? That's not very fair is it?

What if they fight in an environment that doesn't have any of the things listed?

Is Spiderman going to whine like a little ***** like the fanboy's in this thread are?

"No! We HAVE to go fight where there are cars and buildings and lots of walls."
"Why don't we just fight here bub!"
"Because it's NO FAIR! you're denying me something I normally use."
"You mean only when its actually available right?
"No! I always use it!"
"You didn't use any cars in our fight in the graveyard."
"That's different!"
"OR when you thought I was an imposter on the rooftop.
"That doesn't count!"
"Or when we were in the sewer."
"Neither does that!"
"Or whe n Beyonder made us fight."
"THAT DOESN'T COUNT EITHER!"
"Or in the training room."
"I KIL U!!!1!1!1!!!1eleventiy one!!1!"

Yeah somehow I don't see the fight as going down that way. . .

his the local neighbourhood spiderman his neighbourhood has those things in it Cresh.

So to please the Wolverine defenders, they both must fight in a place without:
- water
- cars
- subways
- other heavy objects
- walls
- buildings
- huge rocks or trees

Hmm, how about... the Moon ? Or the Sahara ?

Originally posted by who?-kid
So to please the Wolverine defenders, they both must fight in a place without:
- water
- cars
- subways
- other heavy objects
- walls
- buildings
- huge rocks or trees

Hmm, how about... the Moon ? Or the Sahara ?

Why is it only Spiderman defenders come up with these things? I've never encountered other debators making assumptions about the environment. . .