Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by Creshosk
He'gs going to have to hold his hands out to keep wolverine from kicking him/getting the leverage he needs to twist away, because A foot to the side of the head and pushing off is going to hurt like hell.

So hold your hands out infront of you like youwere spiderman holding onto wolverine. . how quickly do you tire? PRetty quick for such a simple task huh? Now imagine Wolverine trying to kick you and get free, you're going to have to move around alot more. . .

Sigh...what don't you understand about superhuman durability? Even a strong kick to Spiderman's head really won't affect him. He's take shots from MUCH STRONGER than Wolverine to the head before. I don't think Wolverine's kicks are going to somehow gain Hulk-like strength.

Spidey can slam Wolverine against the ground over and over and over again. This will eventually overload his healing factor, once he's been smashed into the ground after the second dozen times of doing this. Spidey has FOUGHT FOR DAYS. I really don't see this tiring him out too much. If at all. What with that superhuman endurance and all.

Notice how I said "ground", too. I said nothing about smashing him into cars or buildings. Just the ground they stand on. And if it's not adamantium, Spidey can continue to smash him deeper into the ground, which would produce jagged-ness and whatnot. All of which will eventually wear Wolverine down and overload his healing factor. Then he would eventually be knocked out.

There. Scenario on how Spidey wins.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Not the same thing dude. Doesn't crucifixtion take a while to kill regular people also? Isn't that the point? to draw out the torture?

Originally posted by willRules
crucifixion is not an immediate suffocation it is a slow and painful process which takes hours, whereas webbing is an immediate blockage of the airways. If we webbed up anyones airways then they would suffocate pretty much within seconds. A crucified person can take hours or in some (rare) cases days..........

Plus some crucifixions would come with a small seat like panel just enough to support a person for a few seconds. The seat was the Roman's idea of prolonging someones torture................

And how many humans do you know that lasted for three days?

Wolverine didn't have a seat to brace himself.

He didn't suffocate after three days, why is he going to in less?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Strawman red herring. . . We've tangented out enough away from the topic.

...So instead of merely answering my pretty simple question, you go out of your way to explain how my question is strawman red herring.

A much more simple solution would be just to answer it. Or might that be too hard?

Originally posted by Creshosk
And how many humans do you know that lasted for three days?

Wolverine didn't have a seat to brace himself.

He didn't suffocate after three days, why is he going to in less?

BECAUSE IT'S A SLOW PROCESS. Even normal humans have lasted for days. Because Wolverine did it is no big feat.

An immediate blockage of the airways would be COMPLETELY different from crucifiction. Wolvie would be unable to breath, and eventually either pass out or die. Maybe both. Pass out then die.

And yes, wolverine8888 is gonna come back and say that he can't die from suffocation. Well, you know what? If he passes out, he still loses. I dare you to say he won't pass out.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Sigh...what don't you understand about superhuman durability? Even a strong kick to Spiderman's head really won't affect him. He's take shots from MUCH STRONGER than Wolverine to the head before. I don't think Wolverine's kicks are going to somehow gain Hulk-like strength.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spidey can slam Wolverine against the ground over and over and over again. This will eventually overload his healing factor,

Originally posted by Metalmanx
once he's been smashed into the ground after the second dozen times of doing this. Spidey has FOUGHT FOR DAYS.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I really don't see this tiring him out too much. If at all. What with that superhuman endurance and all.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Notice how I said "ground", too. I said nothing about smashing him into cars or buildings. Just the ground they stand on. And if it's not adamantium, Spidey can continue to smash him deeper into the ground, which would produce jagged-ness and whatnot. All of which will eventually wear Wolverine down and overload his healing factor. Then he would eventually be knocked out.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
There. Scenario on how Spidey wins.

This one is still flawed in assuming that Spiderman has a stronger healing factor than Wolverine.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Even normal humans have lasted for days.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And how many humans do you know that lasted for three days?

Wolverine didn't have a seat to brace himself.

He didn't suffocate after three days, why is he going to in less?

Will got told. Like any other normal person wolverine need's to breath, and like any normal human he can suffocate, so I think what cresh is saying is that since wolverine was able to survive on a cross for three days webbing isn't going to do any good.

Anyway crucify wolverine is a joke anyway seeing as being crucified broke bones when they nailed you........Spiderman has to many tools to ring out/knockout wolverine.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And how many humans do you know that lasted for three days?

Wolverine didn't have a seat to brace himself.

He didn't suffocate after three days, why is he going to in less?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
BECAUSE IT'S A SLOW PROCESS. Even normal humans have lasted for days. Because Wolverine did it is no big feat.

An immediate blockage of the airways would be COMPLETELY different from crucifiction. Wolvie would be unable to breath, and eventually either pass out or die. Maybe both. Pass out then die.

And yes, wolverine8888 is gonna come back and say that he can't die from suffocation. Well, you know what? If he passes out, he still loses. I dare you to say he won't pass out.

Exactly 🙂

Originally posted by steverules
Will got told. Like any other normal person wolverine need's to breath, and like any normal human he can suffocate, so I think what cresh is saying is that since wolverine was able to survive on a cross for three days webbing isn't going to do any good.

steve a crucifixion is not an immediate blockage of airways. Webbing to them is. Normal people have lasted for days on a cross. so has wolverine. Its not a big feat. Lagan can't heal from not breathing.

.................not yet😈

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wolverine didn't have a seat to brace himself.

are you sure? do you have any scans to confirm this? if its the same issue as im thinking of its not clear enough to tell...........heres a pic............

http://wolverine.x-knights.com/fullsize/wolverine120.jpg

Jesus died on a cross, u saying he's normal are u? Wolverine can still cut through the webbing, if normal people can do it (and i believe they have) I'm pretty sure wolvie can do the same, and if it's that simple to suffocate LOGAN then why hasn't he ever been able to do so?

Originally posted by Creshosk
So Spiderman is just going to stand ther and TAKE wolverine's kicks? 🙄 they certainly seem to cause him pain before.

Not beofre it tires Spiderman. Hulk has pounded wolverine into the ground and not overloaded his system right away. IT;s still less than what he's taken from stronger people.

So has wolverine. What's your point? Spiderman has a better healing factor than wolverine?

Which you know, pales in comparison to Wolverines. . what with the healing factor difference and all.

Not before Spiderman tires.

which has been altered from previous premise, thus invalidating the last premise.

This one is still flawed in assuming that Spiderman has a stronger healing factor than Wolverine.

So...Spiderman fighting for days before is now somehow negated when saying Spidey could smash Wolverine into the ground a couple hundred times?

Not once did I say that Spidey's endurance was as great. Not once.

But Spidey still has superhuman endurance, allowing him to fight for days at time if need be. I REALLY doubt a few days worth of endurance will somehow be completely used up when smashing Wolverine into the ground. It's not like Wolverine weighs that much or will be able to do anything about it.

And I know it's off-topic, but I'm just really curious on your thoughts about Galactus being able to rip Wolverine apart. Do you think he can?

Originally posted by soleran30
Anyway crucify wolverine is a joke anyway seeing as being crucified broke bones when they nailed you........Spiderman has to many tools to ring out/knockout wolverine.

Originally posted by willRules
Normal people have lasted for days on a cross.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Notice how I said "ground", too. I said nothing about smashing him into cars or buildings. Just the ground they stand on. And if it's not adamantium, Spidey can continue to smash him deeper into the ground, which would produce jagged-ness and whatnot. All of which will eventually wear Wolverine down and overload his healing factor. Then he would eventually be knocked out.

There. Scenario on how Spidey wins.

I was thinking that but I was worried a wolvierinefanboy might say the ground is an enviromental advantage 😂

Will you're pic just went and made u look like an ass, u can clearly see that there is nothing underneath wolverine to stop him from suffocating.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So...Spiderman fighting for days before is now somehow negated when saying Spidey could smash Wolverine into the ground a couple hundred times?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Not once did I say that Spidey's endurance was as great. Not once.

"This will eventually overload his healing factor,"

🙄

Originally posted by Metalmanx
But Spidey still has superhuman endurance, allowing him to fight for days at time if need be. I REALLY doubt a few days worth of endurance will somehow be completely used up when smashing Wolverine into the ground. It's not like Wolverine weighs that much or will be able to do anything about it.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And I know it's off-topic, but I'm just really curious on your thoughts about Galactus being able to rip Wolverine apart. Do you think he can?

Secondly if he did that would mean he had enough prescence that Galactus would turn him into a herald.

third Wolverine is probably far too small to grip decently, even humans need things like tweasers to grab something that small.

Fourth Galactus would probably blast wolverine if he we re argreeively angry to him

Spiderman is nowhere near Galactus's strength, and I doubt that Hulk is either. . .

This has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Originally posted by willRules
I was thinking that but I was worried a wolvierinefanboy might say the ground is an enviromental advantage 😂

Yeah Spiderman and the ground are going to do what others before him failed to do. 🙄