Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Metalmanx1,019 pages
Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Wow. I didn't think that would receive such animosity. I wasn't using that as proof for anything. I just kinda felt like showing it. Everyone needs to relax.

I know they're two different universes, I'm very familiar with this. Honestly though, either way Hulk still ripped Wolverine in half. He has the same adamantium skeleton in Ultimate as he does in 616. But whatever, I'm not trying to prove that here. I was merely making a joke with the picture, honestly.

Anyway, I have posted a very viable scenario for Spiderman incapacitating Wolverine. And have yet to hear a counter for it.

soleran30 Fast As Time

Well the marketing staff at marvel would veto that magazine of 4 panels🙂 Heck just throw them into the upper atmosphere and let them burn up! Anyway its just so played that Wolverine gets a shot at spiderman......I always loved Wolverine but he has no long range firepower against a guy tha can stay back and avoid your melee attacks then web you.

TwisterGameX Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wow. I didn't think that would receive such animosity. I wasn't using that as proof for anything. I just kinda felt like showing it. Everyone needs to relax.

I know they're two different universes, I'm very familiar with this. Honestly though, either way Hulk still ripped Wolverine in half. He has the same adamantium skeleton in Ultimate as he does in 616. But whatever, I'm not trying to prove that here. I was merely making a joke with the picture, honestly.

Anyway, I have posted a very viable scenario for Spiderman incapacitating Wolverine. And have yet to hear a counter for it.

😂 yeah uhuh, why don't we start using ultimate spiderman to proove things.

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by Creshosk
if you try to do something and fail multiple times, chances are you can't. Oh that's right he hasn't even tried. . .

Yup, tried and succeeded. Bit of a difference.

No it's not, great strawmanning there, you going to be like C-Master and devote ALL of your time to discrediting me too? Nice to know I'm that big of a threat.

And yet he's tried ho many times?

Youre really grasping at straws if you think grabbing his wrists is a win. . .

And now using his reputation as an argument. . nice.

WTF?!?!?! Kgkg didn't say that! I did. BRAINCHILD ANGRY!!!! BRAINCHILD SMASH!!!!! Am I devoting all of my time discrediting you? No. It is more fun debating w/you than most of the other people on your side though. Don't be so touchy dude. & that "Spidey's never tried it before" still don't carry much weight. I could easily say Wolvie's never tried to cut Spidey's hands off, but that don't mean it's absolutely impossible that he might decide to.

steverules The doctor

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wow. I didn't think that would receive such animosity. I wasn't using that as proof for anything. I just kinda felt like showing it. Everyone needs to relax.

I know they're two different universes, I'm very familiar with this. Honestly though, either way Hulk still ripped Wolverine in half. He has the same adamantium skeleton in Ultimate as he does in 616. But whatever, I'm not trying to prove that here. I was merely making a joke with the picture, honestly.

Anyway, I have posted a very viable scenario for Spiderman incapacitating Wolverine. And have yet to hear a counter for it.

U should have put that in your post with the pic. Hulk is stronger than normal hulk, ultimate wolverine is weaker than normal hulk.

Creshosk Senior Member
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wow. I didn't think that would receive such animosity. I wasn't using that as proof for anything. I just kinda felt like showing it. Everyone needs to relax.

"Spiderman's been doing better against the hulk recently"

🙄

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I know they're two different universes, I'm very familiar with this. Honestly though, either way Hulk still ripped Wolverine in half.
In ultimates. . . not in 616. there is a difference.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
He has the same adamantium skeleton in Ultimate as he does in 616.
Adamantium in ultimates may not be as strong as in 616

Originally posted by Metalmanx
But whatever, I'm not trying to prove that here.
Yet you'll kepep mentioning it even in the post where you're trying to say you aren't trying to use it. . . Which if it were true you wouldn't mention it again.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I was merely making a joke with the picture, honestly.
Your timing was off, and comedy is all about timing.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Anyway, I have posted a very viable scenario for Spiderman incapacitating Wolverine.
It's not incapacitation if Wolverine can still fight back. 🙄

"Spiderman grabs wolverine's wrists so he wins!"

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And have yet to hear a counter for it.
Because you're not reading? Yeah I thought not. . .

Creshosk Senior Member

The webbing will never suffocate Wolverine. He was crucified for three days, webbing disolves in 2 hours. . .

Woo. . . 🙄

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yup despite trying. . you forget that part.

You try and fail multiple times, what makes you think theyare capable?

But you've already said Spidey hasn't tried this before though. Hulk's tried this before? Where?

wolverine8888 Restricted

also rmeebr wolverien from normal unverse bones are all attached the same cant be said for ultimate wolverine.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

So...Ultimate Hulk is stronger than 616 Hulk, and Ultimate Wolverine is weaker than 616?

Is this the general consensus because Wolverine just happens to be damaged more in Ultimates? Of all people, Wolverine seems to be the least unaffected going from 616 to Ultimate.

And by that logic, if 616 Hulk were just stronger, would be able to rip 616 Wolverine like that? Because, it seems that if you have sufficient strength, you could do it.

Could Galactus rip Wolverine in half like that?

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by Creshosk
After he gets to his legs, that are like 4 miles away. Where ultimate hulk threw them to, rather than space. . .
He can't just grow new legs?

willRules 4 8 15 16 23 42
Originally posted by steverules
Yes of coarse cause everyone knows that wolverine can't breath out of somthing called a nose, Will change it to mouth and nose cause otherwise your gonna have the piss taken out of u. (Again).

its pretty obvious what i meant 😉

steverules The doctor

When will people learn that you can not suffocate wolverine with webbing.dohhomer

wolverine8888 Restricted

ulitmate wolverine is far worse in every way.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Wow. Who pissed in Cresh's cheerios? You sure are showing me a lot animosity there, Cresh. I never meant to get you so annoyed.

I've been reading the thread just fine, thank you. And I have yet to see a counter to the scenarios I devised.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by brainchild81
WTF?!?!?! Kgkg didn't say that! I did. BRAINCHILD ANGRY!!!! BRAINCHILD SMASH!!!!!
My copy and paster functions screw up sometimes on this site. I don't know why and its really annoying. . .

Soerry about that. . .

Originally posted by brainchild81
Am I devoting all of my time discrediting you? No.
I'm not saying you are, I'm asking if you're going to like C-Master does, go back ahundred or so pages and you'll see that C-masters biggest thing was attacking me, go back to his last couple of posts and you'll see the same thing.

Originally posted by brainchild81
It is more fun debating w/you than most of the other people on your side though. Don't be so touchy dude. & that "Spidey's never tried it before" still don't carry much weight.
He's also never tried to hit the pressure points, or use a gun to kill people. Now the former he can't because he doesn't know how, the latter he can't because it's out of character, he can't do it and feel good about himself.

Originally posted by brainchild81
I could easily say Wolvie's never tried to cut Spidey's hands off, but that don't mean it's absolutely impossible that he might decide to.
Even so I've still not been told why this is a win for Spiderman.

He'gs going to have to hold his hands out to keep wolverine from kicking him/getting the leverage he needs to twist away, because A foot to the side of the head and pushing off is going to hurt like hell.

So hold your hands out infront of you like youwere spiderman holding onto wolverine. . how quickly do you tire? PRetty quick for such a simple task huh? Now imagine Wolverine trying to kick you and get free, you're going to have to move around alot more. . .

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by Creshosk
The webbing will never suffocate Wolverine. He was crucified for three days, webbing disolves in 2 hours. . .

Woo. . . 🙄

Not the same thing dude. Doesn't crucifixtion take a while to kill regular people also? Isn't that the point? to draw out the torture?

willRules 4 8 15 16 23 42

Originally posted by Creshosk
The webbing will never suffocate Wolverine. He was crucified for three days, webbing disolves in 2 hours. . .

Woo. . . 🙄

crucifixion is not an immediate suffocation it is a slow and painful process which takes hours, whereas webbing is an immediate blockage of the airways. If we webbed up anyones airways then they would suffocate pretty much within seconds. A crucified person can take hours or in some (rare) cases days..........

Plus some crucifixions would come with a small seat like panel just enough to support a person for a few seconds. The seat was the Roman's idea of prolonging someones torture................

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So...Ultimate Hulk is stronger than 616 Hulk, and Ultimate Wolverine is weaker than 616?
See? And now you're trying to justify using it.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Is this the general consensus because Wolverine just happens to be damaged more in Ultimates? Of all people, Wolverine seems to be the least unaffected going from 616 to Ultimate.
IT's still a different universe. . . Hell we can look at a comparison of another thing you tried to use, Wolverine and Cyclops.

In ultimate he takes one shot and is down for the count. in 616 he takes multiple blasts, so is wolverine weaker in that or is cyclops stronger?

We don't know, we do know that the effect ifs different. you can't use ultimates as evidence.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And by that logic, if 616 Hulk were just stronger, would be able to rip 616 Wolverine like that? Because, it seems that if you have sufficient strength, you could do it.
Or is adamantium different in the two universes?

We can see that there is a different bonding process for 616 Wolvie from other realities. Realities that diverge from 616 before the bonding process tend to be unable to keep the skeleton together, like AOA. as opposed to the alternate limbo X-men from the issue where illyana goes from little girl to teenager, we see an intact skeleton, not a pile of bones.

And in days of the future past he gets blasted by a setinal and ios likewise still in tact.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Could Galactus rip Wolverine in half like that?
Strawman red herring. . . We've tangented out enough away from the topic.

wolverine8888 Restricted

u do know it extremely hard to sufficate wolverine right?. plus it would not kill him either way. plus u spidemrna would have to ge this melth with webs which wont happen