Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
More inportantly, there's a diffrence between dieing after a while of having trouble breatheing, and not being able to breathe at all for an hour.

Also, he WAS proboly breatheing a bit, so his healing factor WOULD have helped him survived.

What does this tell you? They can't breath. Why would he be different in that respect? Oh because I need to prove that he can breathe despite having no proof of this, so that I can say that Spiderman will suffocate him in seconds. . . .

Originally posted by LethalFemme
hi cresh

Originally posted by Creshosk
No he didn't. Almost, but he got off and was rescued by Jubilee.

And why does wolverine survive things normal people don't?

Oh yeah, he's got a better healing factor. 🙄

How long was he on the cross? People have surived for hours. And normaly their legs are broken to speed up the process, but wolverine's healing factor (that WOULD have been working since he was geting some O) would heal that and make him last even longer.

Any way you put it, this is completely diffrent then having all oxegen cut off for an hour.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Do you see it saying anything about him breathing? Nope.

How do people die from crucifixtion? Asphyxiation.

No why would that be? A hyper extension of the lungs that prevents them from breathing OUT?

Yeah thought so. . . 🙄

But see, how many people here knew that most people die from asphyxiation when crucified, as opposed to something like blood loss before you told them? (yes, none of them) Take that little tidbit, and try to honestly say that the comic book writer knew full well that having Wolverine crucified also impled that he was not breathing. It's not a well known fact, and so was not taken into account when the comic was being written. Comics defy physics all the time.

Does Wolverine have any other showings of unnatural lung capacity? Hulk is apparently creating new organs to specifically let him breath underwater and in a vaccum, but I am not aware of Wolverine developing anything of the sort.

Originally posted by Creshosk
If he was able to breath then people wouldn't die of asphyxiation when crucified. . . but gee, why do people die? they suffocate.

What does this tell you? They can't breath. Why would he be different in that respect? Oh because I need to prove that he can breathe despite having no proof of this, so that I can say that Spiderman will suffocate him in seconds. . . .

People die of suffocateing after hours. I don't know Wolverine was on that long. And his legs were proboly intact.

He was not exsposed to circumstances that would kill a man in his prime, so there is no evidence the factor helps him if he's not breatheing.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
I also would like to note your use of the term Asphyxiation. Why are you trying to put everything in complex terms. I try to keep arguements simple, so others can follow.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
And again your first impulse at somebody having a diffrent opinion then you is calling them a fanboy.

If there arugument is Spiderman wins because Wolverine sucks, then my impulse is to call them a fanboy.

Same goes for someone saying Wolverine wins because Spiderman sucks.

Same goes for saying either win because they are cooler.

Get it? No? *sigh*

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hello. 🙂

lol i thought u were ignoring me............

Originally posted by Dizzle
But see, how many people here knew that most people die from asphyxiation when crucified, as opposed to something like blood loss before you told them? (yes, none of them) Take that little tidbit, and try to honestly say that the comic book writer knew full well that having Wolverine crucified also impled that he was not breathing. It's not a well known fact, and so was not taken into account when the comic was being written. Comics defy physics all the time.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Does Wolverine have any other showings of unnatural lung capacity? Hulk is apparently creating new organs to specifically let him breath underwater and in a vaccum, but I am not aware of Wolverine developing anything of the sort.

Originally posted by LethalFemme
lol i thought u were ignoring me............

Just a bit swamped here. lol.

Wow this is SO SO sidetracked........can wolverine win sure if we use ring out or incapacite then spiderman has a very good chance staying away from him and web sling like crazy.

Hand to hand to many ways to get hurt badly and it turns poorly for spiderman very poorly.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Not at all. 🙂

Just a bit swamped here. lol.

I came to that conclusion............have fun 😉

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Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
People die of suffocateing after hours. I don't know Wolverine was on that long. And his legs were proboly intact.

He was not exsposed to circumstances that would kill a man in his prime, so there is no evidence the factor helps him if he's not breatheing.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Habit.

No, my first impulse is to ask them for proof.

If there arugument is Spiderman wins because Wolverine sucks, then my impulse is to call them a fanboy.

Same goes for someone saying Wolverine wins because Spiderman sucks.

Same goes for saying either win because they are cooler.

Get it? No? *sigh*

I agree, you argue perfectly well. Your points are valid, and always back-uppable. I argue for Spiderman because of his massive range, speed, and strength advantages... The ways to kill someone with webs are all but inexhaustible.

Coolness arguments=Fanboy

I see you haven't responded to "comic writers are stupid, any other proof that Wolv can go without oxygen?" post. I have little to no respect for the actual scientific knowledge of comic book writers. Why? Superman, Batman, Cosmic Rays, and every mutant power explanation ever.

EDIT: Crap, you did. But seriously, is it not more feasible that they didn't know it? It's not exactly common knowledge. It's like asking one of them to seriously explain why Wolverine's healing factor doesn't act at all like a sped up version of normal healing.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
People die of suffocateing after hours.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
I don't know Wolverine was on that long. And his legs were proboly intact.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
He was not exsposed to circumstances that would kill a man in his prime,

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
so there is no evidence the factor helps him if he's not breatheing.

Wait weren't you already up to two explination attempts? :erolleyes: oh that's right you were too busy trying to discredit the event. Still at it I see.

By "prime" I mean he's not 80 years old...

Anyway I'm not claiming he will die in seconds. I'm claiming he will die after an hour.

And I still see no reason a normal human could not consvobly do that. He was ambushed, but still intact. And there's no reason to think he was on there for hours, which many people have survieved for, WITH their legs broken (While wolverine's proboly were not.)

Originally posted by soleran30
Wow this is SO SO sidetracked........can wolverine win sure if we use ring out or incapacite then spiderman has a very good chance staying away from him and web sling like crazy.

Hand to hand to many ways to get hurt badly and it turns poorly for spiderman very poorly.

Incapacitation hasn't worked too well in the past because he has gotten himself free.

Originally posted by Dizzle
I agree, you argue perfectly well. Your points are valid, and always back-uppable. I argue for Spiderman because of his massive range, speed, and strength advantages... The ways to kill someone with webs are all but inexhaustible.

Coolness arguments=Fanboy

I see you haven't responded to "comic writers are stupid, any other proof that Wolv can go without oxygen?" post. I have little to no respect for the actual scientific knowledge of comic book writers. Why? Superman, Batman, Cosmic Rays, and every mutant power explanation ever.

EDIT: Crap, you did. But seriously, is it not more feasible that they didn't know it? It's not exactly common knowledge. It's like asking one of them to seriously explain why Wolverine's healing factor doesn't act at all like a sped up version of normal healing.

Invisible woman for example turns invisible and can still see, despite her retinas being invisible.
Cyclops projects a beiam of concussive light, that doesn't take his head off when he uses it.
Winged characters would need massive pectoral strength to beable to flap hard enough and fast enough to maintain their wieght.
Spiderman grabs his webbing to swing from it, without any real explination as to why he can just let go , when stronger characters can't pull away from it.
Bricks are strong enough to lift tons and tons, yet ewhen hit they don't move, despite weighing far less than the other person can lift

To attack a comic book writer for a lack of scientific knowledge about one character but ignore the rest is one sided sounding to mean. If any character gets the suspension of disbeleif in this facet, then why not the others? Why be picky about it?

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
By "prime" I mean he's not 80 years old...

Anyway I'm not claiming he will die in seconds. I'm claiming he will die after an hour.

And I still see no reason a normal human could not consvobly do that. He was ambushed, but still intact. And there's no reason to think he was on there for hours, which many people have survieved for, WITH their legs broken (While wolverine's proboly were not.)

Wolverine was unconcious, how did he lift himself up?

And if he would have suffocated after an hjour, why didn't he?

He was not "not breatheing" he was "having trouble breatheing". Big diffrence.

If you don't drink water at all, you'll be dead in a few days. If you just srink a little, you can live possibly twice as long.

And again, we don't know how long he was there. You can't back up you're claim. Too many variables.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
He was not "not breatheing" he was "having trouble breatheing". Big diffrence.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
It mentions nowhere about trouble breatheing.

Why would an unconcious wolverine have an easier time breathing than a perosn with broken legs?

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
If you don't drink water at all, you'll be dead in a few days. If you just srink a little, you can live possibly twice as long.

You still haven't answered that question. How could he lift himself up if he was unconcious?

And that's something else that hasn't been proven, people lasting more than a few days. . .

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
And again, we don't know how long he was there. You can't back up you're claim. Too many variables.

Please . . .

You're dodgeing again. You have not shown me where it said how long he was there.

Also, wether his legs were broken or not is a matter of little inportance. People have survived hours without legs, so again, there is no evidence wolverine did anything a normal human could not.