Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Spiderman webs people up all the time, it's just that thoes he does are useally strong enough to just rip it off. Morlun... Hulk... I think thing once too.
he webs them TO THINGS... exactly.. than webbing wolverine while wolverine's coming at him won't stop wolverine's momentum... as previously displayed....
Originally posted by Dizzle
Oh, and beating Hulk is still an example of Hulk jobbing terribly. If nothing else, Hulk's healing factor simply sucks in those fights.
whao.. i think your making some huge jumps to assumptions as to what the arguments presented here really are...
we're not tying to make a wolverine>hulk argument... cause well.. that's incorrect.. period...
the point was: wolverine's durability/healing factor help him stand up to a barrage of hulk attacks.. and it does.. everytime they throw down... so there's no reason to assume spiderman can do anything lasting that will put wolvie down in a fight.
Originally posted by Dizzleas I said, in his fights with huk, he reverts to a more berserker self. everything goes up with it, strength, speed, reflexes, and healing factor.
Wolverine regrows ALL of his internal organs in less than a second,
Originally posted by Dizzle
yet Hulk is seriosuly injured by (relatively) shallow scratches.
it's when logan stabs hulk in the organs like the heart, or in the jugular that hulk has a hard time dealing with, cause wolverine keeps attacking... hulk still gets up just fine so I don't see what you're complaining about...
Originally posted by Dizzle
And taking Hulk level shots without effects is still pretty sketchy.
Originally posted by Dizzle
And of course, there's the whole knockback issue which you yourself brought up. Wolvie should fly miles every time Hulk so much as backhands him...
true but every character that fights hulk should.. class 100 strength doesn't change the fact that a class 100 punch should send you flying for miles.. why is it that wolverine's the only one that this predjudice is against?
Originally posted by soleran30
yup and all that assumes spiderman will ALWAYS go in for melee when I have constantly said Spiderman needs to only stay away web his feet trip him web him some more cuz no momentum.....blah blah blah
which is sooo utterly easy to do cause wolverine will be standing there to let that happen, cause his arms can't cut through incoming webbing, cause webbing's way to fast for him...
Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Did you read thta comic? I did.He had just webed wolverine and slamed him into the wall. Wolverine tore off the webing, and stabed him while he was still landing.
are you sure you read it?
he slammed hin into a wall and then continued shooting his webbing.. wolverine tore through it and nailed spiderman while spiderman was trying to jump out of the way WHILE still shooting webbing... here look again... 🙄
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Wow. And still this same thing didn't apply when I was proving Namor's speed by posting pictures about him dodging Hulk's blows in Sub-Mariner VS Wolverine thread, because "Posting pictures about someone dodging Hulk is not an good proof, Hulk is slow"....funny, isn't it?
do you not see the double standard you're using?...
you were trying to say wolverine was slower than namor when he's shown the same ability to leap around hulk... but if wolverine's feats for bounding around hulk are of no incident to your argument then why use the same feat of namor bounding around hulk... the point was this: "so what if namor's done it? wolverine's done it to, but it's not a great way to show implied speed because hulk may or may not have a fast base speed, however, in any case he grows faster as a fight progresses so you can't assume namor to be bounding around a fast hulk just because it suits your debate when you don't have evidence to show that hulk had worked up to a faster speed while implying that wolverine was bounding around a slow hulk."
you're
ignoring a big part to that post I just made which was that hulk GETS faster as he gets stronger...
it's being implied that hulk uses NO speed to beat his oponents.. that's obviously not true whatsoever....
Originally posted by DizzleIn his delusion? I knew someone would bring this up, yeah sure anything to help Spiderman win, lets all ignore what all else is being said.
Actually, in that scan with Gateway, Wolverine started talking. So he probly WAS breathing.
Hey, wolverine halucinating, but hes talking during it so obviously the "I wish I could catch a breath is overridden. . .
Right. . .
Originally posted by DizzleHe was halucinating. . the halucinations continued on Well into the next book, hell it didn't stop until Psylocke jabbed him with her psionic knife,
The flaw in your logic that "comic science sucks" is that... well, it basically agrees with my point. All of your examples (IW, Cyclops) were A happens, and B should happen, but it doesn't. Same thing with Wolvie being crucified. Wolverine was put on a cross and should have had no air for an extended period of time. However, the fact that he could talk shows that he COULD breathe. A=crucifixion, B=not breathing. Face it, the people thought he could breathe.
But no, that doesn't matter, he was talking, and that's all that matters.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Hilarious. He should have just pulled a wicked "Thor" on Hulk. (that's quite a sig, DC 😂 )And notice how, very shortly after he was talking about how fast Hulk was, he said Wolverine simply proved much too fast for Hulk...
I said he showed the ability to do it in their first encounter.. but only glimpses of said ability afterwards..
this however doesn't mean that hulk uses no speed to beat his oponents with...
you guys aren't even attacking the points I'm making at this juncture in the debate, you're simply attacking the points you THINK i'm making.. it's quite sad really.
Originally posted by willRules
yet some people (not mentioning any names) seem to think wolverine has beat hulk? Hulk who can run over a 100 mph................exactly
does this look like hulk winning to you? 😕
in any case this is STILL not evidence that denies hulk having great amounts of speed... there's a reason spiderman uses the hit and run tactic..................