The tip of Wolverine's claws may not be slower than Spiderman, and that's the only part that matters.
Pitchers throw balls at up to like 100mph yet normal human's still connect with a skinny wooden stick. Why? Skill + the fact that the end of the stick is traveling faster than the handle.
Also, unlike a laser, Wolverine's claws can change trajectory in mid air. Spiderman cannot change trajectory in mid air, and neither can his webs.
Originally posted by scotsmnBut they spread, and you have to keep in mind that ock's tentacles are faster, with more reach, and stronger, and can lift, and move on their own, and THINK. There are 4 of them as well, MUCH harder to stay away from AND dodge, enabling ock to go on walls throw items, etc...
The tip of Wolverine's claws may not be slower than Spiderman, and that's the only part that matters.Pitchers throw balls at up to like 100mph yet normal human's still connect with a skinny wooden stick. Why? Skill + the fact that the end of the stick is traveling faster than the handle.
Also, unlike a laser, Wolverine's claws can change trajectory in mid air. Spiderman cannot change trajectory in mid air, and neither can his webs.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But they spread, and you have to keep in mind that ock's tentacles are faster, with more reach, and stronger, and can lift, and move on their own, and THINK. There are 4 of them as well, MUCH harder to stay away from AND dodge, enabling ock to go on walls throw items, etc...
His tentacles are only dangerous to Spiderman at their very tip whereas Wolverine's claws have a tip plus a sharped bottom.
It takes long tentacles like Ock's much longer to get to speed than Wolverine's arms, so his tentacles are far more predictable.
His tentacles are also far less devastating when they connect.
Originally posted by scotsmn
His tentacles are only dangerous to Spiderman at their very tip whereas Wolverine's claws have a tip plus a sharped bottom.
Originally posted by scotsmn
It takes long tentacles like Ock's much longer to get to speed than Wolverine's arms, so his tentacles are far more predictable.
they think for themselves, wolverine's are an extension, if something is on one arm, he has to use the other arm to get it off.
Originally posted by scotsmnThey're like class 10, they can destroy a building MUCH faster than his claws would.
His tentacles are also far less devastating when they connect.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Constrictionthey think for themselves, wolverine's are an extension, if something is on one arm, he has to use the other arm to get it off.
They're like class 10, they can destroy a building MUCH faster than his claws would.
To constrict something, you need to be able to wrap around it which takes time. Spiderman is supposed to have very high reflexes and agility, most of the time this shouldn't be happening.
I would rather be doing the thinking for my limbs. If they do what they want it's hard to execute a plan since it's out of your hands.
Sure they can destroy a building faster than claws, no complaint there. But we're talking about destroying Spiderman. Sharpness > Blunt Force in this case
Originally posted by scotsmnSlamming can be done, bashing, you DO realize that if a person loses leverage there is little they can do...
To constrict something, you need to be able to wrap around it which takes time. Spiderman is supposed to have very high reflexes and agility, most of the time this shouldn't be happening.I would rather be doing the thinking for my limbs. If they do what they want it's hard to execute a plan since it's out of your hands.
Sure they can destroy a building faster than claws, no complaint there. But we're talking about destroying Spiderman. Sharpness > Blunt Force in this case
Sharpness is not always better, not in wolverine's case. Concussive force can't be absorbed all the way, while a slice would never get through the skeleton.
Slashing is high force in a small area, blunt is in an even WIDER area...
Originally posted by scotsmn
The tip of Wolverine's claws may not be slower than Spiderman, and that's the only part that matters.Pitchers throw balls at up to like 100mph yet normal human's still connect with a skinny wooden stick. Why? Skill + the fact that the end of the stick is traveling faster than the handle.
Also, unlike a laser, Wolverine's claws can change trajectory in mid air. Spiderman cannot change trajectory in mid air, and neither can his webs.
yes and spidey can't do anything to dodge he is completly helpless.......
oh no wait look.........
cos logan is also faster than all of these guys right? 🙄
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Slamming can be done, bashing, you DO realize that if a person loses leverage there is little they can do...Sharpness is not always better, not in wolverine's case. Concussive force can't be absorbed all the way, while a slice would never get through the skeleton.
Slashing is high force in a small area, blunt is in an even WIDER area...
Wait... maybe I don't understand. Are we arguing who's better suited to deal with Dr. Octopus? If that's the case, Spiderman would handle him more quickly since he can avoid the tentacles, web his torso and bring him close for a beating.
If we are talking about who's better suited to take on Spiderman, then I go with Wolverine since his hits are capable of decapitation and causing loss of limbs. Dr. Octopus can hurt Spiderman with blunt force but it can;t compare to opening him up with cuts.
Originally posted by scotsmn
Wait... maybe I don't understand. Are we arguing who's better suited to deal with Dr. Octopus? If that's the case, Spiderman would handle him more quickly since he can avoid the tentacles, web his torso and bring him close for a beating.If we are talking about who's better suited to take on Spiderman, then I go with Wolverine since his hits are capable of decapitation and causing loss of limbs. Dr. Octopus can hurt Spiderman with blunt force but it can;t compare to opening him up with cuts.
Each of Doc Ocks' four arms are faster and a hell of a lot stronger than Wolverine. They can bring down a building with ease. They can rip Spider-Man in two with ease.
I don't understand how Wolverine could damage Spider-Man more than the four tentacles of Dock Ock.
Originally posted by who?-kid
I don't understand.Each of Doc Ocks' four arms are faster and a hell of a lot stronger than Wolverine. They can bring down a building with ease. They can rip Spider-Man in two with ease.
I don't understand how Wolverine could damage Spider-Man more than the four tentacles of Dock Ock.
I disagree. I don't think they have the strength to rip Spiderman in two. Spiderman is a 15 tonner now so Doc Oct would have to apply 15 tons just to straighten his arm out and another... 40ish tons to rip his arm off on top of that.
Wolverine could damage Spiderman because he can sever his limbs with the sharpness of his claws... this part shouldn't be that hard to understand. I can cut a rope a lot easier than I can snap it.
Originally posted by scotsmn
It takes long tentacles like Ock's much longer to get to speed than Wolverine's arms, so his tentacles are far more predictable.His tentacles are also far less devastating when they connect.
First, I doubt it. Show Wolverine tearing apart a building with his claws.
Secondly, you also said...
Originally posted by scotsmn
Pitchers throw balls at up to like 100mph yet normal human's still connect with a skinny wooden stick. Why? Skill + the fact that the end of the stick is traveling faster than the handle.
And I thought you said
Originally posted by scotsmn
The tip of Wolverine's claws may not be slower than Spiderman, and that's the only part that matters.
So, why are you "moving the end-zones" when it doesn't suit your team? 😕
Originally posted by scotsmn
Wolverine could damage Spiderman because he can sever his limbs with the sharpness of his claws... this part shouldn't be that hard to understand. I can cut a rope a lot easier than I can snap it.
Originally posted by Melnorme
First, I doubt it. Show Wolverine tearing apart a building with his claws.Secondly, you also said...
And I thought you said
So, why are you "moving the end-zones" when it doesn't suit your team? 😕
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say since you're taking quotes from different posts. Can you respond in a way where I might understand a little better?
I'll guess at what you're saying though.
Wolverine has the speed necessary to tag Spiderman because he has extentions at the end of his fists, his claws. The claws are further away from the joint so they are traveling at a faster velocity, particularly the tip of his claws since the further you are from the joint the faster the speed.
Dr. Octopuses arms are much longer, so the speed at the tips of his arms is going to be quick. However, since he relies strickly upon the tips of his arms for damage (that's where he has the little claws/grapples I believe) it's harder to make just those points connect. They are so far from him body that the advantage in speed is overcome by the lessened ability to have them change directions to compensate for Spiderman's agility. Once Spiderman gets past the ends up his arms, Dr. Octopus is very exposed. He's not a good fighter close up.
Originally posted by scotsmnI'm saying ock's weapons are more lethal all around...
Wait... maybe I don't understand. Are we arguing who's better suited to deal with Dr. Octopus? If that's the case, Spiderman would handle him more quickly since he can avoid the tentacles, web his torso and bring him close for a beating.If we are talking about who's better suited to take on Spiderman, then I go with Wolverine since his hits are capable of decapitation and causing loss of limbs. Dr. Octopus can hurt Spiderman with blunt force but it can;t compare to opening him up with cuts.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm saying ock's weapons are more lethal all around...
Well I guess it depends on how you measure it. We are obviously measuring using two different scales. If you measure on a hit per hit basis then Wolverine's attacks are more deadly. If you measure on an overall versatility of attacks then you're right, Dr. Octopus has that category locked.
Originally posted by scotsmnDo you agree that ocks are MUCH more difficult to dodge?
Well I guess it depends on how you measure it. We are obviously measuring using two different scales. If you measure on a hit per hit basis then Wolverine's attacks are more deadly. If you measure on an overall versatility of attacks then you're right, Dr. Octopus has that category locked.