i'm not debating whether or not carnage is a sick twisted killing machine. And I never said otherwise....stop assuming what i'm attempting to convey. It was stated that Sabretooths freal rage attack is comparible to venom carnage and juggs. but it isn't. Carnage doesn't go feral, he's just crazy, venom doesn't go feral, he's more reasonable than carnage, and juggs, well he's almost in a state of normalcy at this point in his life, and he never had the rageful capacity to go feral anyways. When sabretooth or wolverine go into feral rages, their fighting styles, speed, and tolerance for pain are all increased dramatically, it's like fighting an entirely different person. Carnage, venom, or juggs have never done anything like this,,,,venom's probably come closest with the deaths of innocents in lethal protector and a couple others but it's not the same.
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
dude!! why are you adding spiderman to that list??
Oh,sorry I thought it was all superpowerful guys-I saw Juggy first 😉- Seriously though,I think Wolverine has the grit tostealawin. It would take a longtime, but one hit is basically victory.
You don't doubt that he isn't fast enough to do such a thing....do you?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The Hulk has failed to ko Wolverine with numerous punches to the face; yet you argue Spiderman can do it?
the thing did it with hardly a tap, so yeah....... and most of the hulks punches don't hit him in the face or the head, mostly his body and arms when he's blocking
Originally posted by jinzin
i'm not debating whether or not carnage is a sick twisted killing machine. And I never said otherwise....stop assuming what i'm attempting to convey. It was stated that Sabretooths freal rage attack is comparible to venom carnage and juggs. but it isn't. Carnage doesn't go feral, he's just crazy, venom doesn't go feral, he's more reasonable than carnage, and juggs, well he's almost in a state of normalcy at this point in his life, and he never had the rageful capacity to go feral anyways. When sabretooth or wolverine go into feral rages, their fighting styles, speed, and tolerance for pain are all increased dramatically, it's like fighting an entirely different person. Carnage, venom, or juggs have never done anything like this,,,,venom's probably come closest with the deaths of innocents in lethal protector and a couple others but it's not the same.
but getting angrier is not a good thing during a fight unless you're up against someone who doesn't know what you are doing....... it just makes you sloppy and leaves you open to counter-attack ...... plus wolverines strength or speed don't increase when he goes "berserk" it's just a mental state where he cares even less about himself getting hurt than usual, and acts almost purely on instinct, it's actually detrimental to his fighting "style"
spider-man's instincts are much better suited to fighting than wolverines even though he is a less violent person in general
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The Thing also punched Wolverine through several buildings with out knocking him out
it's more about "how" and "where" he gets hit than how hard he gets hit, i'm sure daredevil could knock him out more often than most due to his superior skills, spiderman has speed and instinct rather than any precise "skill" but the two combined would be enough to deal with wolverine
"but getting angrier is not a good thing during a fight unless you're up against someone who doesn't know what you are doing....... it just makes you sloppy and leaves you open to counter-attack ...... plus wolverines strength or speed don't increase when he goes "berserk" it's just a mental state where he cares even less about himself getting hurt than usual, and acts almost purely on instinct, it's actually detrimental to his fighting "style""
yeah sorry I didn't mean to say that the strength fator goes up "dramatically' my bad, but it does go up a bit. His healing factor, senses, seem to though. I agree about being mad not helping in a fight,,,but that pretains to the real world. In wolverine comics, when he loses it he becomes nothing less than a killing machine, like you said, reverting back to pure instinct, he does become a much more impressive fighter.
Hulk almost never gets a clean shot off on Wolverine. He usually lands a shot to the body (because his hand's too damn big to hit such a small head) or he'll graze Wolverine in the head.
I have this comic where Wolverine was "teamed" up with Hulk....Hulk would randomly smack the crap out of Wolverine and it got to the point where Wolverine had to either fight back or continue to recieve abuse to the point where he'd die from internal bleeding.
Wolvie then rode Hulk down a mountain like a sled while sknickt-ing his ass all the way down the mountain.