Wolverine vs. Spider-Man · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

whobdamandog Restricted

Originally posted by scotsmn
Plenty of times Wolverine was holding back as well.

Oh it's picture time again!!! I love picture time!!!

Here ya go

GUESS WHAT..During these fights..SPIDER MAN

COULD HAVE KILLED HIM!!!

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by whobdamandog
What if Spider Man wasn't holding back during Secret Wars?
Or what if he wasn't holding back after he Webbed him up in MK Spider Man?

But Jinzin thinks Wolvie could've gotten out anytime he wanted😮

Melnorme Senior Member

Originally posted by wolverine8888
so ur saying hulk would hit spiderman more times then spiderman would hit him?

So, you're building a straw man?

GODSCRIBE Senior Member

It's been said, the arsenal of superhuman strength, reflexes, agility, webbing etc will overwhelm wolv

wolverine8888 Restricted

Originally posted by Melnorme
So, you're building a straw man?

hahahaha u got caught being incorrect so now ur just playing dumb lol

whobdamandog Restricted

Originally posted by brainchild81
But Jinzin thinks Wolvie could've gotten out anytime he wanted😮

Jinzin also thinks that Wolverine moves at "Flash like Speeds"..and that Wolvie can jump 3 stories in the air as well..😆 😆

wolverine8888 Restricted

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
It's been said, the arsenal of superhuman strength, reflexes, agility, webbing etc will overwhelm wolv

see how wolverine ahs all that ecpt the webs. and ahs supeior stamina and fighting skill

scotsmn Snikt!

I love picture time!

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brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by wolverine8888
actauly looks more like wolverines taking a chunk out of spidermans arm

You make perfect sense as usual. That's why Spidey's missing a chunk of his arm later on in that fight.......... Waitaminute! Spidey's not missing a chunk out of his arm. You're not making sense!!! Now that I think of it, you usually don't.😆

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by whobdamandog
What if Spider Man wasn't holding back during Secret Wars?

what if wolverine wasn't?

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Or what if he wasn't holding back after he Webbed him up in MK Spider Man?

he was still on the attack when he got stuck not much else he could've done.. 😕

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Or what if he actually had decided to use the webbing during the PIS induced Graveyard fight?

he did.. wolverine cut through it, afterwards spiderman didn'thave the time to use it and admitted it...

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Do you think the outcomes of these battles would have been in Wolvie's Favor?

every time wolverine's hit spiderman yes...

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Come on now man..you're just pulling straws. There ain't no shame in loosing a debate. Just take it like a man..and move on..😆 😆

nope, I'm using comic book evidence to support a comic book argument with examples of DIRECT COMPARISON ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS rather than arguing how Id like these characters to be... you should try it some time.

wolverine8888 Restricted

Originally posted by brainchild81
You make perfect sense as usual. That's why Spidey's missing a chunk of his arm later on in that fight.......... Waitaminute! Spidey's not missing a chunk out of his arm. You're not making sense!!! Now that I think of it, you usually don't.😆

funny seeing how if wolverine had that much blood coem out of his face then why is his face fien in the next panel?

whobdamandog Restricted

Originally posted by wolverine8888
so ur saying hulk would hit spiderman more times then spiderman would hit him?

Nope Hulk would get webbed up just like this...

The difference being..Hulk is strong enough to break the webbing..Wolverine isn't..

Next please..😆 😆

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Jinzin also thinks that Wolverine moves at "Flash like Speeds"..and that Wolvie can jump 3 stories in the air as well..😆 😆

cause I obviously said both.. even though he can't quote me anywhere on either one of those claims.. hmmm

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Oh it's picture time again!!! I love picture time!!!
Here ya go
GUESS WHAT..During these fights..SPIDER MAN
COULD HAVE KILLED HIM!!!

😂

alright now you're just being downright ignant...

scotsmn Snikt!

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Nope Hulk would get webbed up just like this...
The difference being..Hulk is strong enough to break the webbing..Wolverine isn't..
Next please..😆 😆

Who said anything about breaking it? 😆 Slice n' dice baby, Slice n' dice

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by brainchild81
But Jinzin thinks Wolvie could've gotten out anytime he wanted😮

cause that's exactly what HE DID.... he just had to hurt himself to do it.. something he hoped he didn't have to do, when his hand was forced and he decided to go for it, he escaped with relative ease.. no biggie..

scotsmn Snikt!

True, he escaped at the cost of hurting himself.. no prob.

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by jinzin

5th pic boasting spidey can web logan
ignoring: wolverine got out when he wanted to

Originally posted by jinzin
cause that's exactly what HE DID.... he just had to hurt himself to do it.. something he hoped he didn't have to do, when his hand was forced and he decided to go for it, he escaped with relative ease.. no biggie..

So he didn't want to get out before? He wanted Spidey to get away w/the kid? Damn son, Wolvie is a f**kin mastermind. Wolvie beats Spidey. No F**k that, Wolvie beats anybody 10/10!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I also envy your ability to read the minds of fictional characters.

Melnorme Senior Member

Originally posted by jinzin
hmmm 🤨 well it's pretty obvious at this point your simply attacking the points you THINK i'm making... well it certainly tells me it is infact you who needs to catch up here.. that event was pis due to the fact that spiderman just being present negated the entirety of the x-men's powers.. professor x is surprised, cyclops has problems hitting a target, he doesn't use richochets, storm doesn't keep going after spidey or use any of her powers to secure him, rogue gets stuck on a pipe, the pipe doesnt break kurt forgets he can teleport.. if you think that's grade A writing at it's finest.. all I have to say is PFFFFT... 🙄

Are you claiming that Secret Wars was badly written?

Either that, or Spidey was too much for them. He got Professor X first, who by the way isn't omniscient. Cyke couldn't keep up with his obviously superior speed and tactical positioning. Rogue's abilities didn't help her, Colossus got webbed in the face. Wolverine got slapped around like the peak human he is. Kurt was just so friggin surprised at what happened, and let's face it, even if he acted it wouldn't have made much of a difference.

Anyway, the fact is that Secret Wars is as canon as it gets. Good luck arguing against that. 😛

Originally posted by jinzin
no the point was that wolverine did get back up but that he ALSO casually bitchslapped spidey 20 feet away. you responded to that point whether you were aware of it or not... and I'm the one who needs to stay on track? why don't you try following along... I can't draw you out a map in crayon now...

Well, when you find your crayons, you look me up, lil' trooper.

Anyways, Spidey wasn't knocked back 20 feet. He backflipped away. Plain as day. 😄

Originally posted by jinzin
your argument was a copout...
wolverine wins cause every pic of spidey doing anything impressive is PIS and anything that shows wolverine less than a god taking nukes and beating lobo is as cannon and valid as it gets.... you aren't using a decent standard of evidence I have no wish to respond to a copout...

If you can't rebut the argument, except with this lame false dilemma, then you concede the point. Thank you.

Originally posted by jinzin
yeah you are, all I'm saying is there's no guarantee there's going to be walls, your response.. "theres must not be ground there either" hmmm no one ever made that claim nor suggestion... way to go... 😉
no one made that claim... just called it into question as it suits as an environmental advantage.. again it's you that needs to catch up here.. we've been through all this before...

Ah yes. More ad hominem. And what's this? In one paragraph backpeddling to state that no one claimed that there would be no walls, and in the next restating that you called into question that there might not be any walls? 🤨

Well done. 😂

Originally posted by jinzin
that may be your point now, but you were definitely just mocking me before... 🤨

That's been the point from the get go. Surely you aren't claiming that I was seriously arguing that there would be no floor, and somehow the combatants would be fighting in a surfaceless void? Because you would have to be in order for your current claim to be correct.

Originally posted by jinzin
as is wolverine's.

Wolverine is still slower than Spider-Man. Everyone who reads comics knows this, unless they're being disingenuine.

Originally posted by jinzin
and yet he's still not guaranteed to dodge... as wolverine's proven on 4 or 5 occasions.

Out of how many attempts? Hundreds? Thousands? Statistically speaking, those aren't good odds.

Originally posted by jinzin
dammit! I wanted to be the one to point this out...

I was referring to your rebuttal. RIF.

You apparently don't even understand what a straw man is. It's quite amusing to watch you try, though. Go Google it, and do us all a favor. 😂

Originally posted by jinzin
quite true.. but if he can't be KOed by spiderman than it really doesn't matter for this debate...

A point not yet proven.

Originally posted by jinzin
this is comics... wolverine's always needed sufficient force to knock him out...

Now you're coping out. A knockout occurs for the same reasons in a comic as it does in real life. If it didn't, there would be no point in debating this, because we'd be talking about properties that defy explanation.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by brainchild81
fighting "slow and stupid" and not using all @ his disposal(webs)

wolverine getting in spiderman's head (much in the same way spiderman uses mindgames to take on stronger opponents than himself) doesn't make it any less valid... he did use webs wolveinre cut through them, then he didn'thave time to use them anymore cause he thought he'd die if he gave wolvie a second...

Originally posted by brainchild81
And Spidey who couldn't bring himself to kill. Both(could've broke his neck).

he can't break admantium.... dog he can't break logan's neck.. hulk punches to the jaw don't but spiderman can? 🤨

Originally posted by brainchild81
I doubt Wolvie was holding back up until the point where Spidey let him get up.

wolverine had three chances to kill spidey, didn't take any of them and was trying once again to talk spidey out of the fight... he was holding back...