Originally posted by Melnorme
We don't see the blow connect, and given the status of Wolverine's face and body in the following panel, we can only conclude that Wolverine avoided that blow.
go read hulk #340, go read HULK vs WOLVERINE #8
go read death wolverine vs hulk, go readwolverine vs hulk 6 hours
Originally posted by MelnormeI'm claiming that there was a lot of PIS produced through one instance os secret wars.. I thought that was clear.... 😕
Are you claiming that Secret Wars was badly written?[/B]
Originally posted by Melnorme
Either that, or Spidey was too much for them. [/B]
either way? so whether it was PIS or not right? right, well in that case, wolverine beats spiderman, just like he's been consistently doing for years..... with your standard of debate PIS is a non-factor at this point?
Originally posted by Melnorme
He got Professor X first, who by the way isn't omniscient. Cyke couldn't keep up with his obviously superior speed and tactical positioning. Rogue's abilities didn't help her, Colossus got webbed in the face. Wolverine got slapped around like the peak human he is. Kurt was just so friggin surprised at what happened, and let's face it, even if he acted it wouldn't have made much of a difference. [/B]
you're not telling me anything I don't already know.. the fact is all of that is shrouded in PIS. and yes kurts doing something would have definitely made a difference.. hell kurts put up a pretty good tustle with spiderman BY HIMSELF...
Originally posted by MelnormeI'm not really arguing against it.. it's well known around here that I don't think calling something PIS negates the fact that it happened... I'm just pointing this out as a retaliation to all the PIS claims that are brought up against wolverine...
Anyway, the fact is that Secret Wars is as canon as it gets. Good luck arguing against that. 😛[/B]
Originally posted by Melnormedoh
Well, when you find your crayons, you look me up, lil' trooper.[/B]
Originally posted by MelnormeI'm talking about the roftop fight...
Anyways, Spidey wasn't knocked back 20 feet. He backflipped away. Plain as day. 😄[/B]
Originally posted by Melnorme
If you can't rebut the argument, except with this lame false dilemma, then you concede the point. Thank you.[/B]
Originally posted by Melnormeno I'm pointing out that you need to catch up... which you do.. I'm not saying your points are irrelivent because we've already gone over them just redundant.. and they are...
Ah yes. More ad hominem. [/B]
Originally posted by Melnorme
And what's this? In one paragraph backpeddling to state that no one claimed that there would be no walls, and in the next restating that you called into question that there might not be any walls? 🤨Well done. 😂[/B]
hulk can't lift that mountain calm.
hulk might not be able to lift that mountain calm, who knows
Originally posted by Melnorme
That's been the point from the get go. Surely you aren't claiming that I was seriously arguing that there would be no floor, and somehow the combatants would be fighting in a surfaceless void? Because you would have to be in order for your current claim to be correct.[/B]
false dichotomy..
please don't tell me I have to find you a definition for "mocking" doh
Originally posted by Melnormewhich I wholly agree to.. I just think that the difference in their speed is so slim it won't matter much, especially if the fight lasts for any significant duration...
Wolverine is still slower than Spider-Man. Everyone who reads comics knows this, unless they're being disingenuine..[/B]
Originally posted by Melnorme
Out of how many attempts? Hundreds? Thousands? Statistically speaking, those aren't good odds.[/B]
in terms of direct comparison.. wolverine's secured his hands on spiderman 4 out of 5 times..statistically speaking those are great odds..
Originally posted by Melnormeappaerently you don't if you think your rammbling was on point.
You apparently don't even understand what a straw man is. It's quite amusing to watch you try, though. Go Google it, and do us all a favor. :lol[/B]
Originally posted by Melnorme
Now you're coping out. A knockout occurs for the same reasons in a comic as it does in real life. If it didn't, there would be no point in debating this, because we'd be talking about properties that defy explanation. [/B]
Originally posted by Melnorme
We don't see the blow connect, and given the status of Wolverine's face and body in the following panel, we can only conclude that Wolverine avoided that blow.
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Originally posted by Melnorme
Backpedal much?
go ahead, whatever it takes for you to find me saying he's as strong as hulk or even comparible... 😉
Originally posted by wolverine8888
wendgo is comparable hell that wendigo pic I got form mangi is base lined strength of a good deal higher then that of hulks if I am not mistaken.
We don't know his full strength, but he was indeed physically stronger than the previous Wendigo Wolverine was battling minutes before. Plus he also has mystical powers that were heightened in Wendigo form. He could even amp his strength up by bitting into flesh [does this right before he gets sucked into the portel]
Originally posted by King_Mungi
We don't know his full strength, but he was indeed physically stronger than the previous Wendigo Wolverine was battling minutes before. Plus he also has mystical powers that were heightened in Wendigo form. He could even amp his strength up by bitting into flesh [does this right before he gets sucked into the portel]
Which doesn't prove conclusively that he's in the same category as the Hulk.
Which also doesn't mean conclusively that a heavy hitter can't knock out Wolverine, but we all knew that already. 😉