Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Ennis never had Spidey in his Punisher run. He had Daredevil and Wolverine, and Daredevil beat Frank senseless. Frank had prep. Also, can you not spell? I can't read half of your posts. Use the spell check button, and don't fret because Frank is a better fighter, and knew that there are vulnerable spots if you have an adamantium skeleton. Stomach, groin, nerve clusters near the kidneys, so forth. It's not out of Franks range to fight someone like Wolverine. He's beaten people trained by Taskmaster before.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Ennis never had Spidey in his Punisher run. He had Daredevil and Wolverine, and Daredevil beat Frank senseless. Frank had prep. Also, can you not spell? I can't read half of your posts. Use the spell check button, and don't fret because Frank is a better fighter, and knew that there are vulnerable spots if you have an adamantium skeleton. Stomach, groin, nerve clusters near the kidneys, so forth. It's not out of Franks range to fight someone like Wolverine. He's beaten people trained by Taskmaster before.

here DD giving spiderman loads of trouble

Actually, Ennis has never written Spider-Man. He's written Preacher, Hellblazer, Thor, Nick Fury, and Punisher from what I can recall. He's also one of the best combatants in Marvel. Also, Wolverine does not have superhuman strength. At best he can lift 800. If you're going from handbooks, the range you're talking about goes from 800 pounds to 25 tons. That's a wide we're talking about here. Also, Frank never beat Batman. He beat Azbats, which is much different. Also, I know plenty about Wolverine. I also know his limits, and who is better than him.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Actually, Ennis has never written Spider-Man. He's written Preacher, Hellblazer, Thor, Nick Fury, and Punisher from what I can recall. He's also one of the best combatants in Marvel. Also, Wolverine does not have superhuman strength. At best he can lift 800. If you're going from handbooks, the range you're talking about goes from 800 pounds to 25 tons. That's a wide we're talking about here. Also, Frank never beat Batman. He beat Azbats, which is much different. Also, I know plenty about Wolverine. I also know his limits, and who is better than him.

also ya about u saying wolverine does not have superhuman strength lol

Marvel hand book 2002-2003 master edition
Marvel knights encyclopedia 2003
Official Wolverine hand book of the marvel universe
Marvel comics presents Wolverine volume 2
Hulk ultimate guide also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
(THE SHOW DOWN OF THE CENTURY DC VERSUS MARVEL COMICS) also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
“The Marvel Universe Master Edition Issue 4 clearly states that Wolverine's strength is enhanced human.” Quote from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wolverine_(comics)/Archive_2

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Wolverines old stats.
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Wolverine throwing a 1,600 pound full trash container with one arm. (Yes look it up ur self’s at full they are 1,600 pounds)
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This pic speaks for it self.
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Lifting a shark that weights between 1000 to 1200 pounds and throwing it in a boat from the water. (Look it up your self if u don’t believe how much a shark that size would way)
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Wolverine punching a guy who says he his brother in water so hard he slams into the wall and his head goes through it.
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Wolverine beats rough-house with his fists. (Rough-house is stated by (marvels wolverine official hand book 2004) to be strength class of a 6 which is the same strength class colossus is in. he is also stated (wolverine # 123) to be just under hulks level of strength.
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wolverine lifting blob and slamming blobs head into the wall.
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wolverine pick up a huge tree looking thing like a base ball bat and hitting a creature of pure energy.
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Death wolverine smashing through a solid door of titanium that’s also being held back by x-man.
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since my printer is broken I can only get scan already on my computer so here are comic issue numbers of a few more feats of strength.

In (New X-men 115) Cassandra Nova has wolverine Cyclopes and pig faced guy chained up and wolverine easily breaks his chains using just strength and hits Cassandra nova.

In ( wolverine 28 agent of shield part 3) wolverine allows him self to be captured. Wolverine arms leg and neck are locked in this metal devices to hold wolverine but as soon as the sentinel attacks wolverine easily breaks it using pure strength.

In (Black Panther #9) a huge dragon mutant creature is flying holding black panther and wolverine stabs the creature in the tail and then swings the creature the opposite way while the creature is hold black panther.

In ( Wolverine #44) wolverine runs through a wall of rocks and boulders like it nothing.

In ( x-men # 7) wolverine who is haft dead and drugged breaks out of metal holding designed to hold him, using nothing but pure strength.

In ( x-men # 98) which is the 6th issue of x-men that wolverine was ever in. wolverine breaks holding of what were said to be unbreakable using just his strength because some guy this jean.

LOL guys try and remember some of the folks that enjoy Wolverine placed this fight in an arena AGES ago which wasn't how this thread started but whatever to humor Wolverine fans.

That picture you keep showing of Wolverine cutting up that lame arse villian is a HUGE so what. Its jus a bunch of flash pictures I mean seriously that guy is so unimpressive its rediculuos. Wanna compare Hulk fights with Wolverine and Spiderman to see who dodges the most blows while getting hits in before they get hit?

LOL I just saw Wolverine get stopped with a baseball bat to the jimmy by a mere human spec hero. Spiderman webs up the cannuckle head before he can do shiot.

OH GOD now we get to be bombarded by the freakin 5 feats of strength for Wolverine that are subjective LOL

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
The spell check button is your friend.

Ya know instead of making fun of his spelling, why don't you focus on the points he's making?

Strength says enhanced human. Deadpool is an enhanced human. Can he lift over a ton?

Those containers don't weigh half a ton. I've worked around them. Maximum weight for those is 800 pounds, and that's maximum.

A punch with 500 pounds of force can do that to a person with that short of range.

A shark that big doesn't weigh half a ton. I don't know where you're looking this up, but I've experienced these things first hand.

He didn't lift that elevator, and he sure as hell didn't hang on long.

Blob looks like he's running at Logan. If he's a martial artist, then he'd be able to use the guy's weight against him. What's next?

Death was enhanced by celestial tech, like any Apoc horsman.

That tree looked rotten. I can lift a rotten tree, and it isn't that big either.

Wolverine outfought a guy bigger than him. Not impressed.

So, anything else? I really haven't seen anything here that Spider-man couldn't do with ease. You haven't proven your case yet.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Strength says enhanced human. Deadpool is an enhanced human. Can he lift over a ton?

Those containers don't weigh half a ton. I've worked around them. Maximum weight for those is 800 pounds, and that's maximum.

A punch with 500 pounds of force can do that to a person with that short of range.

A shark that big doesn't weigh half a ton. I don't know where you're looking this up, but I've experienced these things first hand.

He didn't lift that elevator, and he sure as hell didn't hang on long.

Blob looks like he's running at Logan. If he's a martial artist, then he'd be able to use the guy's weight against him. What's next?

Death was enhanced by celestial tech, like any Apoc horsman.

That tree looked rotten. I can lift a rotten tree, and it isn't that big either.

Wolverine outfought a guy bigger than him. Not impressed.

So, anything else? I really haven't seen anything here that Spider-man couldn't do with ease. You haven't proven your case yet.

LOL YES and YES and YES and YES and YES ok are we sensing a theme here .....................I agree

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Strength says enhanced human. Deadpool is an enhanced human. Can he lift over a ton?

Those containers don't weigh half a ton. I've worked around them. Maximum weight for those is 800 pounds, and that's maximum.

A punch with 500 pounds of force can do that to a person with that short of range.

A shark that big doesn't weigh half a ton. I don't know where you're looking this up, but I've experienced these things first hand.

He didn't lift that elevator, and he sure as hell didn't hang on long.

Blob looks like he's running at Logan. If he's a martial artist, then he'd be able to use the guy's weight against him. What's next?

Death was enhanced by celestial tech, like any Apoc horsman.

That tree looked rotten. I can lift a rotten tree, and it isn't that big either.

Wolverine outfought a guy bigger than him. Not impressed.

So, anything else? I really haven't seen anything here that Spider-man couldn't do with ease. You haven't proven your case yet.

Actually, 1000-1200 is actually what that kind of shark would weigh. How big was it, roughly 14 feet? Look up how much a shark like that would way. That shark actually looks like it weighs MORE than 1200lbs., considering a 23ft. shark can weigh up to a ton and a half.

Originally posted by soleran30
LOL guys try and remember some of the folks that enjoy Wolverine placed this fight in an arena AGES ago which wasn't how this thread started but whatever to humor Wolverine fans.

That picture you keep showing of Wolverine cutting up that lame arse villian is a HUGE so what. Its jus a bunch of flash pictures I mean seriously that guy is so unimpressive its rediculuos. Wanna compare Hulk fights with Wolverine and Spiderman to see who dodges the most blows while getting hits in before they get hit?

LOL I just saw Wolverine get stopped with a baseball bat to the jimmy by a mere human spec hero. Spiderman webs up the cannuckle head before he can do shiot.

OH GOD now we get to be bombarded by the freakin 5 feats of strength for Wolverine that are subjective LOL

Originally posted by capt it up
I lvoe how it PIS if it happen to spiderman but if it happens to wolverine it allowed lol. look at this pic below a cyber ninja beating spiderman and wolverine has beaten many many cyber ninja with little to no effort

I was talking about Wolverine's picture not Spiderman's and I didn't say PIS anywhere .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_shark

There yeah go Batdude123 thats a tigershark🙂

And someone can sit there till we are blue in the face saying thats an 800lb shark anyway its speculative...................lol let me ask you what did you want the shark to weigh🙂

Originally posted by soleran30
I was talking about Wolverine's picture not Spiderman's and I didn't say PIS anywhere .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_shark

There yeah go Batdude123 thats a tigershark🙂

And someone can sit there till we are blue in the face saying thats an 800lb shark anyway its speculative...................lol let me ask you what did you want the shark to weigh🙂

Yeah, see it says that the larger ones can get to be 1400lbs. and it was exactly as I expected; roughly 14 feet, and he threw it one the boat with one hand. So there ya go soleran. 😉

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Strength says enhanced human. Deadpool is an enhanced human. Can he lift over a ton?

Those containers don't weigh half a ton. I've worked around them. Maximum weight for those is 800 pounds, and that's maximum.

ACTAULY WHEN FULL THEY DO HERE THE SIGHT AND IT WAS FULL

Trash dumpster sight
http://www.fac.unc.edu/OWRRGuidelines/?Topic=Vehicle

A punch with 500 pounds of force can do that to a person with that short of range.

DUDE NO WAY. OUT OF THE WATER MABY IN THE WATER HEEL NO.

A shark that big doesn't weigh half a ton. I don't know where you're looking this up, but I've experienced these things first hand.

ACTAULY THEY DO. AND UR FULL OF SHIT LOOK IT UP THAT SHARK IS ABOUT 11feet long

He didn't lift that elevator, and he sure as hell didn't hang on long.

HE HUNG ON THE A WIRE AND THE ELEVATOR THAT A AMAZING STRENGTH FEAT WHICH EAISLIY PUT HIM OVER 1000pounds elevator weights tons

Blob looks like he's running at Logan. If he's a martial artist, then he'd be able to use the guy's weight against him. What's next?

Death was enhanced by celestial tech, like any Apoc horsman.

ACTAULY THATS IN CORRECT. ALL OTHER RIDER HAD THERE ENCHANCED MENTS LISTED NON OF WOLVERINE LSITED ENCHANCE MENT SAID ANY THING ABOUT STRENGTH.

That tree looked rotten. I can lift a rotten tree, and it isn't that big either.

FIRST OFF IT HUGE AND HE LIEFT IT LIKE A BAT MENAING HE LISTING ALL THE WEIGHT FROM ONE END MMEANING HE HAVE TO HAFT MORE STRENGTH THEN PRITTY MUCH DOUBLE THE WIGHT OF THE OBJUECT

Wolverine outfought a guy bigger than him. Not impressed.

THAT GUY NAMES ROUGH-HOSUE IF U READ MY DAM PSOT U KNOW HE IN THE SAME STRENGTH CLASS AS COLOSSUS.

So, anything else? I really haven't seen anything here that Spider-man couldn't do with ease. You haven't proven your case yet.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So the spidersense is not infalliable?

Considering it didn't even appear to have warn him, nope.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah, Marvel's

Marvel Hate? 😕

Originally posted by Creshosk
Somebody needs to learn to follow trains of thought. Stamina isn't going to help out at the start, it's going to help after they have fouhgt for awhile.

Oh right.....cause that's exactly the thing shown in the scan right?

Originally posted by Creshosk
You're right, the claws will help with the being webbed up thing and the mutant regenerative factor will help out sith the whole getting knocked out thing.

The claws will webbed up being tied up? What? does he 3 hands or something?

Originally posted by Creshosk
No the scan means nothing because Wolverine is faster than the kid.

And as has beencovered beore dodging bullets comes from moving before the shot is even fired. Making the other person miss because you made sure the aim was bad by moving before hand.

OHhh yeah.........cause the kid was the one shown blasting out of the gun.........of course the scan says otherwise by saying point blank, no escape or probably if the kid has higher reflexes, the bullet would travel faster, right?

Bad Aim = Point Blank 😱

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Strength says enhanced human. Deadpool is an enhanced human. Can he lift over a ton?

Deadpool has superhuman stats across the board so yes he can lift more then a ton.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Those containers don't weigh half a ton. I've worked around them. Maximum weight for those is 800 pounds, and that's maximum.

I posted a link to a websight that had the dimensions of their dumpsters and how much it weighed empty and full. I dont remember either but I remember someone worked out the feet to be in the 5 ton range (which admittedly is a stretch for Wolverine)

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
A punch with 500 pounds of force can do that to a person with that short of range.

Are you talking about the feat were Wolverine punches a guy so hard that he goes from end of the pool to other then cracks the concrete side of the pool? Because a punch with 500lbs if force isn't going to do that anyone out side of the water let alone in it.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
A shark that big doesn't weigh half a ton. I don't know where you're looking this up, but I've experienced these things first hand.

The most impressive part of the feat is that it happens in the water and that he is in the water when he slings it on the boat so he has like no leverage at all. And what kind jump do you have where you work around dumpsters and wrestle sharks?

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
He didn't lift that elevator, and he sure as hell didn't hang on long.

You can see that his arm is bend apposed to slack so he is lifting the elevator.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Blob looks like he's running at Logan. If he's a martial artist, then he'd be able to use the guy's weight against him. What's next?

He slammed his head into a metal wall... as in his head went into the metal

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Death was enhanced by celestial tech, like any Apoc horsman.

Death Wolverine had no strength or speed enhancements. He was immune to telepathy and he was given that sword... thats it.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Wolverine outfought a guy bigger than him. Not impressed.

... Do you know who Roughhouse is?

Yep. Know who roughouse is. Also have worked construction and at fast food places before. I've also been present at a big shark dissection. Besides, Wolverine outfights guys who are bigger than him all the time. That's why I'm not impressed. However, the guy has his limits, and some people have a hard time admitting them.

Spidey who's faster than Frank & Wolvie and hits way harder than either of them can with a baseball bat, punches or kicks Wolvie in the nuts. Then he boxes the ears like he did to the Hulk. Then he 1st crushes and then removes the biceps of Wolvie. Webs up Wolvie's nose & mouth. Punches a hole in Wolvie's stomach and rips organs out. Repeat as needed. Throw in a little finger through the eyes, Spideystrength and Spideyspeed ear boxing, & windpipe punching(crushing?) every once & a while for good measure. For those that don't know, Spidey is waaaaaaaaaaaay faster than Wolvie when he's going full out. He's a good deal faster even when he's not. In the Graveyard fight, Spidey felt like he himself was moving "slow and stupid", even with that Wolvie was too slow to have land anything @ all until Spidey LET him tackle him. LET him. In Secret Wars, Wolvie tried to get Spidey twice but was too slow and got pimp smacked for his trouble. Wolvie would never land any slices on Spidey unless it's during a training session 🙄 Spidey's even faster now people. Wolvie loses. Speed kills

😆 Speed kills indeed.

Originally posted by soleran30
Well then it looks like Spiderman can punch Wolverine all day long then and not get his hands broken.

If Spiderman can pin Wolverine up like that BEFORE he can react in an arena he just webs his feet down and goes from there.

The only thing about this thread is the silly arena setup (on purpose because it was changed from the original post) and the fact Wolverine is a one trick pony and even in an Arena with Spidermans organic webbing he pins wolverine against a wall or the ground whatever.............

Wolverine's stats aren't near as powerful nor are his high end showings minus the ability to take hit even that is dubious as his highs and lows are beyond ridiculuos.

Spiderman 4 the win.

if spidey were to pin wolverine up like before... he would need 1) walls.. and 2) wolverine to not be paying attnetion...

has has neither of those for this fight...

and actually marvel puts wolverine at an overall pl of 9 while spidey's an 8 so yeah his stats are a bit better than spiderman's,.. sorry to burst your bubble... and if we're going by high end showings wolverine's are by far more potent.. creshosk already covered this months ago..