Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Spider-Man isn't times faster than a street leveler?

yes he does have a slight speed advantage over some of the top notch streeters but what makes him appear faster than normal is his spider sense...

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
You can take this as personal as you like, but it still doesn't erase the fact that Wolverine can't take Spider-Man by any way, shape, or form.

keep telling yourself that...

funny how direct confrontations between the two don't seem to boast that same notion...

fact is, all wolverine has to do is land one sufficient blow and it's over... WAAAAAAYYYYYYYY too many street level guy have tagges spiderman INCLUDING WOLVERINE to make the assumption that wolverine can't a valid one...

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
now, I understand your loyalty to Wolberine, but to be honest, it's not hard to see that he's outclassed here.

srank already covered this...

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Wolverine is a horridly overrated character. I'm guessing next you're going to say that what he did in Enemy of the State was within his means.

🤨

did you even read enemy of the state?
if anything he demonstrated low end showings during that run with the exception of a few things...

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
He's never been proven times faster? Most street levelers and enhanced humans can't tag Quicksilver, or dodge bullets with ease.

everyone and their grandmother can dodge bullets with ease in comics how that's even up for debate in your mind is well beyond me.. pffft..
as for quicksilver.. neither could spiderman, spiderman had to use his brain to figure out a way to hit QS same with SD...

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
That evidence has already been proven. Maybe if you knew how to read this shouldn't be a problem.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
doh
Name one thing that Wolverine has done that Spider-Man can't do with ease.

Now, after name said thing, tell me it isn't plot induced stupidity to make his character to look better. If you can do that, then good for you. However, Spider-Man has punked all of the X-Men before, and snuck in a kiss with Jean Grey while going at it. He's also defeated enemies that make Wolverine look like a little punk. I honestly don't seeing him even beating Spider-Man without a case of bad writing to boot.

ah yes.. every good feat spidey has is the bible every good feat logan has is PIS... I should have known.. ❌

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
wow, such great one panels and [b]cutouts...great scans. One even involved a sneak attack

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wow such great inability to follow a train of thought... I was proving a point.. those scans help to prove that point.. and if spiderman can get snuck up on then his spider sense is worthless.. unless.. oh wait.. he gets tired.. which slows him down, which makes him capable of being hit.. thank you for proving yet another point... pffft..

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Ennis never had Spidey in his Punisher run. He had Daredevil and Wolverine, and Daredevil beat Frank senseless. Frank had prep. Also, can you not spell? I can't read half of your posts. Use the spell check button, and don't fret because Frank is a better fighter, and knew that there are vulnerable spots if you have an adamantium skeleton. Stomach, groin, nerve clusters near the kidneys, so forth. It's not out of Franks range to fight someone like Wolverine. He's beaten people trained by Taskmaster before.

you didn't read that either huh?

well actually spiderman WAS in that comic run so that's that.

Originally posted by brainchild81
For those that don't know, Spidey is waaaaaaaaaaaay faster than Wolvie when he's going full out. He's a good deal faster even when he's not. In the Graveyard fight, Spidey felt like he himself was moving "slow and stupid", even with that Wolvie was too slow to have land anything @ all until Spidey LET him tackle him. LET him.

actually wolverine was holding back a lot... the fact that wolverine was holidng back for pete's saftefy indicates that his strikes before such were of no consequence... to this debate.

Originally posted by brainchild81
In Secret Wars, Wolvie tried to get Spidey twice but was too slow and got pimp smacked for his trouble. Wolvie would never land any slices on Spidey unless it's during a training session 🙄 Spidey's even faster now people. Wolvie loses. Speed kills

so I guess you must think it's PIS (or something of like) whenever spidey's been hit by streeters in the past eh?

and this isn't about current upgraded spidey.. the same way it's not about vamp wolverine.. you know that.

Good one Jinzin. Holding the torch for those who know pretty well. 🙂

Originally posted by jinzin
no he's not.. is that really too hard a concept to grasp?

yes he does have a slight speed advantage over some of the top notch streeters but what makes him appear faster than normal is his spider sense...

Slight speed advantage?

spidey is waaayyy faster than your average street character. He dodges rapid machine gun fire like its nothing (By the way rapid machine gun fire, as slow as it is to spidey is way faster than Logan or logan's claws 😄 ). True whilst the spider sense does help him in terms of speed you neglected to mention that his superhuman agility reflexes and equilibrium helps as well in various ways.

Originally posted by jinzin
fact is, all wolverine has to do is land one sufficient blow and it's over... WAAAAAAYYYYYYYY too many street level guy have tagges spiderman INCLUDING WOLVERINE to make the assumption that wolverine can't a valid one...

Well when we realise that spidey can easily dodge machine gun fire, lasers etc it seems very odd that things that are ridiculously slower (Say for example wolverine) can actually lay a finger on him.

Which suggest possibly the writers are a lot like the writers of Flash. Really only a few things should be able to hit the flash but that would be a boring comic. 🙂 Simillar rules apply for spidey.

Untill Logan gets his upgrade.

Originally posted by jinzin
if spidey were to pin wolverine up like before... he would need 1) walls.. and 2) wolverine to not be paying attnetion...

has has neither of those for this fight...

and actually marvel puts wolverine at an overall pl of 9 while spidey's an 8 so yeah his stats are a bit better than spiderman's,.. sorry to burst your bubble... and if we're going by high end showings wolverine's are by far more potent.. creshosk already covered this months ago..

LOL first off all spiderman needs is the ground , not even a wall but hey thanks for thinking of possiblities. It has been shown that Wolverine can be webbed by Peter. I'm sorry are you calling PIS to the other scenes where a Master of all martial arts with enhanced speed and reflex's gets thrown through a window by peter or gets webbed up in an Alley casually? I mean c'mon Wolverine is as fast as Spiderman der ok george! Yeah well everytime I watch Wolverine get webbed it makes me laugh. Or the time in the Avengers training room WOlvereine got webbed to the wall and then yes PIS Wolverine broke the webbing.

Spiderman is faster then Logan I realize thats a big pill to swallow for some but so what🙂 In a one on one fight Spiderman should take this with relative easy. Its when the stupidest writers on the planet put Siderman up against Wolverine in H2H does it get ridiculious. Pete's a smart guy and more then likely wouldn't ever fight Wolverine H2H (Pete would lose)

Originally posted by jinzin
wow such great inability to follow a train of thought... I was proving a point.. those scans help to prove that point.. and if spiderman can get snuck up on then his spider sense is worthless.. unless.. oh wait.. he gets tired.. which slows him down, which makes him capable of being hit.. thank you for proving yet another point... pffft..

Point, what point? The fact that it didn't appear in the first place? A non-existent warning is worthless but that contradict the Spider Sense's nature considering it didn't appear when it was supposed to. It's merely the writer....namely Millar forgetting he had it or choosing not to for the sake of the plot or bad writing, take your pic. And even if he were, getting hit by Electro's bolts isn't a bad showing at all considering how fast it travels. Unless of course your saying Wolverine is as fast as a lightning bolt.

I only helped you with one thing and that is: your argument=shit

Can anybody tell me what could stop Spider-man from ripping Wolvie's skeleton from his body?

bad writing and that much theorized flexible adamantium in his ligaments and tendons 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
bad writing and that much theorized flexible adamantium in his ligaments and tendons 😖hifty:

spiderman grabing wolverine's arm's-"why your stabing your self, why your stabing your self"

Originally posted by spideycarnage
spiderman grabing wolverine's arm's-"why your stabing your self, why your stabing your self"

😆 😆 😆
Sounds like a good written comics.

Originally posted by jinzin
wow such great inability to follow a train of thought... I was proving a point.. those scans help to prove that point.. and if spiderman can get snuck up on then his spider sense is worthless.. unless.. oh wait.. he gets tired.. which slows him down, which makes him capable of being hit.. thank you for proving yet another point... pffft..

Those Electro scans prove the point that Mark Millar is a bad writer.

Originally posted by spideycarnage
spiderman grabing wolverine's arm's-"why your stabing your self, why your stabing your self"

Wolverine's not a dumba$$, he'd retract them.

It's a joke.

Originally posted by batdude123
Wolverine's not a dumba$$, he'd retract them.

I agree that Spidey wouldnt do it multiple times, but he could get off one. Hell, Spider Woman did.😬

Originally posted by batdude123
Wolverine's not a dumba$$, he'd retract them.