Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by capt it up
sodierman has never ocne betaen wolverine and even in there first apearence spiderman said wolverine might be faster then him. how cna spidemrans reflexes be 40 tiems wolverines when his reflexes are only 40 tiems that of a normal person and wolverine a superhuman?

Well, spider-man once said Lizard is three times stronger than him(doesn't change a fact that lizard is class 15 only). Peter always says such things. Even if Logans reflexes are 5 times better than usual men's it's still 8 times slower than spider's.

Originally posted by samishe
Well, spider-man once said Lizard is three times stronger than him(doesn't change a fact that lizard is class 15 only). Peter always says such things. Even if Logans reflexes are 5 times better than usual men's it's still 8 times slower than spider's.

Originally posted by capt it up
punisher reflexs are more like 5 tiems a normal mans.
capt are more like 10 times maby greater and wolverine are a good deal greater then that.
also spidemrna was stated to be only 20 times faster not 40

Spider-man was said to be 15 times faster, his reflexes 40 times.
Punisher 5 times?? Have to argue wuth that, he is an ordinary man.
Wolverine's reflexes are never been said to be that close to Spider's.

Originally posted by samishe
Spider-man was said to be 15 times faster, his reflexes 40 times.
Punisher 5 times?? Have to argue wuth that, he is an ordinary man.
Wolverine's reflexes are never been said to be that close to Spider's.

Originally posted by capt it up
proof it. were did it say that.
punisher not a normal human. a normal human is a guy who can only lift 200 pounds. punisher is a guy who lift 500 pounds. a guy who as clsoe to peakhuman as u proboly can be. he in perfect shape.
so when has it ever been said wolverine is not close to spiderman reflex? when has it ever been said wolverine no were enar spidermans reflex? please tell me. the only time they have mention both fo there reflexes in a comic spiderman thought wolverine might be faster then him.

Punisher is NORMAL comic book human, think about it.
No you tell me when it been said that Wolverine's reflexes are at least half as good as spider's. Never. Spiderman has reflexes 40 times better than of average human, so writers mention it many times. If Wolverine had reflexes on pair with peter it would've been mentioned many times.
And enough of that "spider man said blah blah". He says a lot of things, doesn't mean it always true.
The only reason why Wolverine could beat Spider-man is that Peter is too kindhearted, Logan is heartless killer.
But here on forum we discuss what would happen if both characters were ready to kill eachother. So if we concider that Spider-man is also a killer, then he could simply ripp Logan's skeleton of his body.

Originally posted by capt it up
punisher reflexs are more like 5 tiems a normal mans.
capt are more like 10 times maby greater and wolverine are a good deal greater then that.
also spidemrna was stated to be only 20 times faster not 40

No. Punisher's reflexes are above normal. They're quick, but not five times a normal man. If a normal man you mean Stephen Hawking, then yes. Also, Wolverine isn't quicker than Captain America. Cap is the best fighter in Marvel. Also, Wolverine being slower than Spider-Man is common knowledge to people who aren't Wolberine fanboys.

Originally posted by samishe
Punisher is NORMAL comic book human, think about it.
No you tell me when it been said that Wolverine's reflexes are at least half as good as spider's. Never. Spiderman has reflexes 40 times better than of average human, so writers mention it many times. If Wolverine had reflexes on pair with peter it would've been mentioned many times.
And enough of that "spider man said blah blah". He says a lot of things, doesn't mean it always true.
The only reason why Wolverine could beat Spider-man is that Peter is too kindhearted, Logan is heartless killer.
But here on forum we discuss what would happen if both characters were ready to kill eachother. So if we concider that Spider-man is also a killer, then he could simply ripp Logan's skeleton of his body.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
No. Punisher's reflexes are above normal. They're quick, but not five times a normal man. If a normal man you mean Stephen Hawking, then yes. Also, Wolverine isn't quicker than Captain America. Cap is the best fighter in Marvel. Also, Wolverine being slower than Spider-Man is common knowledge to people who aren't Wolberine fanboys.

Originally posted by capt it up
so hulka dn every 100 ton character is far faster and better reflexes and more agile then spiderman?

Faster? Probably. ✅
More Agile? Nope ❌

Originally posted by capt it up
punisher reflexs are more like 5 tiems a normal mans.
capt are more like 10 times maby greater and wolverine are a good deal greater then that.

Sorry but that is a load of shit

Originally posted by willRules
Faster? Probably. ✅
More Agile? Nope ❌

Sorry but that is a load of shit

Originally posted by capt it up
relay and whys that? a normal human is many times weaker then punisher and many times slower.

In terms of speed lets say the average person picked off the street can probably cover a mile in 6 minutes if I'm being generous. Thats 10 miles in an hour. If Punisher is 5x faster thats 50 miles in an hour 🙄

In terms of reflexes punisher can only be as fast as he is trained to be without any augmentation through steroids or whatnot. the definition of that is peak human, not 5x the amount of a human which is waayyy greater. 🙂

Who says that he hasn't doped himself up like the athletes of former DDR?

But honestly, Punisher sure is above average human in every aspect, but still within human capacities.

Originally posted by Tshern
Who says that he hasn't doped himself up like the athletes of former DDR?

But honestly, Punisher sure is above average human in every aspect, but still within human capacities.

Oh I agree but 5x times the average human is a bit of a stretch............

Originally posted by samishe
Well, spider-man once said Lizard is three times stronger than him(doesn't change a fact that lizard is class 15 only). Peter always says such things.

Yet you buy him say he has 40x human reflexes... sad

On to some other stuff.

Does Punisher have 5x human reflexes? The answer is yes. or rather at least 5x. Punisher has shot the web shooter's off Spider-man wrists before the guys coordination and reflexes are top notch, at the very least 5x what any real life human is capable of. I'm not sure why you guys are so caught up around the notion that being a human some how limits what a character is capable of. This a comic book for Christ sake, Karate Kid is human he redirects light speed attacks.

Originally posted by willRules
In terms of speed lets say the average person picked off the street can probably cover a mile in 6 minutes if I'm being generous. Thats 10 miles in an hour. If Punisher is 5x faster thats 50 miles in an hour 🙄

In terms of reflexes punisher can only be as fast as he is trained to be without any augmentation through steroids or whatnot. the definition of that is peak human, not 5x the amount of a human which is waayyy greater. 🙂

I remember my high school gym teacher saying that if you can't run a kilometer in 8 minutes you aren't running.

Five times is being a bit generous. I'd say twice. I'm an avid Punisher fan, so I've seen his reflexes. You don't need to be five times quicker ont he trigger to do the stuff he does. It also helps when half your enemies are complete morons that speak English as well as half the people in the movie Snatch.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Five times is being a bit generous. I'd say twice. I'm an avid Punisher fan, so I've seen his reflexes. You don't need to be five times quicker ont he trigger to do the stuff he does.

... I'm sure there are real humans with reflexes twice as fast as the average man heck maybe even more then that it isn't much of a stretch of a comic book character to have 5x reflexes of average man at all.

Well, I'll come back to that after I give a look through my comics tonight. I know they comment on his quick draw skills, which are sickening, but I'm not gonna say five times. However, he IS far above the average Joe on that degree, considering there hasn't been a match for his trigger finger except for Bullseye. I think he even put Deadpool to shame.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Well, I'll come back to that after I give a look through my comics tonight. I know they comment on his quick draw skills, which are sickening, but I'm not gonna say five times. However, he IS far above the average Joe on that degree, considering there hasn't been a match for his trigger finger except for Bullseye. I think he even put Deadpool to shame.

Well DP is a notoriously bad shot

Any way you guys need to get away from the notion that being a human places statistical shackles on the characters in question. Cap has been sauntering down the street oblivious to the fact that a hammer had been thrown at him and it was an inch or two from his face before even started reacting and yet he still easily snatched it out of the air. This are comics people every street level would put an amalgamation of all the real worlds best athletes to shame while wearing a blind fold an walk backwards. Cap has sensed changes in the air current and figured out someone was trying to jump him. Nothing they do is remotely with in the realm of humanly possible, for Punisher to walk into a gun fight against dozen of armed men often with out getting hit puts his reflexes on at least 5x human range.

Good analysis. I like it.