Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Spider-Man is easily fast enough to stay out of Wolverine's reach. He can continiously fire the webs at Wolverine, who will be cutting them (His hand speed is very impressive, great scans) but you see, the webs are pretty sticky, and the strands will fly towards Wolverine and get stuck in every place. Now, Spidey is firing his webs all the time, in one direction, sooner or later the entire body of Wolverine is covered in webbing. It's kind of like hardened water, splashing everywhere. Not to mention that Spider-Man can just make web balls that explode on impact and send the webbing everywhere.Example how fast he can create webbing again...
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanwebshield8pw.jpg
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Where has it been stated that he is master of every style on Earth? Because that is pretty much impossible, even if you had THOUSAND years. Comic book evidence, please, because handbooks state that Cap is master of every style too, and we all know that he is not.I don't think anyone is master of so many styles. And I don't think Batman is master of 124 either.
I don't think anyone is master of so many styles. And I don't think Batman is master of 124 either.
I see Wolverine a master of Samurai type Kendo swordfighting, probably Drunken Fist fighting (His moves look uncoordinated, but are probably very well placed - the point of Drunken Fist) he's very likely a master of Aikido, which would give him very good defense, of course the Bushido arts of medieval Samurais such as Juijitsu, Hun Gar, since he has been shown to use opponents weight against themselves time and time again, and Chin-Na because I've seen him use arm locks often.
I'd say he would have been able to master maybe ten styles at most, but he would have very good knowledge about nearly all martial arts. But master of them all? Not possible by any standards.
Originally posted by capt it up
still not fast enough and there sticky true but that matter little. also spiderman only uses organic webs now.
if any thing spiderman would tirer and waist his energy before that ever happened. also thats not how spiderman battles he will try and hit wolverine with his fists as well
I wouldn't put Wolverine's moving speed over multiple bullets...if Wolverine would run at him, he could easily put a shield in front of him to have Wolverine run at it and get stuck. Like in that picture.
That's easily fast enough. Spider-Man is faster then Wolverine.
Another example of webbing speed...
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3333/17211la.jpg
Originally posted by capt it up
still not fast enough and there sticky true but that matter little.
Can you prove any of that? smells like shit to me
Originally posted by capt it up
if any thing spiderman would tirer and waist his energy before that ever happened.
Proof of spidey tiring from use of organic webbing? 😕
Originally posted by capt it up
also thats not how spiderman battles he will try and hit wolverine with his fists as well
Spidey isn't stupid. He knows wolverine will try to stab him. He knows he is physically superior to Logan and has range which logan doesn't, so why would he try to go up close? 😕
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I don't think anyone is master of so many styles. And I don't think Batman is master of 124 either.I see Wolverine a master of Samurai type Kendo swordfighting, probably Drunken Fist fighting (His moves look uncoordinated, but are probably very well placed - the point of Drunken Fist) he's very likely a master of Aikido, which would give him very good defense, of course the Bushido arts of medieval Samurais such as Juijitsu, Hun Gar, since he has been shown to use opponents weight against themselves time and time again, and Chin-Na because I've seen him use arm locks often.
I'd say he would have been able to master maybe ten styles at most, but he would have very good knowledge about nearly all martial arts. But master of them all? Not possible by any standards.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I wouldn't put Wolverine's moving speed over multiple bullets...if Wolverine would run at him, he could easily put a shield in front of him to have Wolverine run at it and get stuck. Like in that picture.That's easily fast enough. Spider-Man is faster then Wolverine.
Another example of webbing speed...
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3333/17211la.jpg
Originally posted by willRules
Can you prove any of that? smells like shit to meProof of spidey tiring from use of organic webbing? 😕
Spidey isn't stupid. He knows wolverine will try to stab him. He knows he is physically superior to Logan and has range which logan doesn't, so why would he try to go up close? 😕
Originally posted by capt it up
I know for a fact in knwos ever sameri style and is a master ever sword style that ogon new and all of what shingues knows. he also lived in a ninja village mastering all there styles.
he also has master many other styles due to trianing from the goverment. He was trianed and master many arts of comabt from all his war time and special ops details.
also u have toi rmeber he had memories implanted whcih were just diffrent style of combat implanted into his brain
so he easilyi ahs master over 10 hell he mastered ten just under one trianer.
Forgot his special ops training. That would add few. But to truly, completely master a style of fighting, and use it with extreme profiency, would take years. So I really don't see him having mastered even 5% of martial arts in the world. There are literally thousands in Asia only.
Mastering even close to 5% is very impressive though. And I think that he knows more styles then Batman, for example.
Originally posted by capt it up
again wolverine can last rgiht through this true spidemran can use it up close to slow wolverine down some, but it not quick enough to get wolverine.
Right through it? I have never seen him tear through a wall of webbing like that one there. It's true that he can rip small amounts of webbing, but big amount stop bullets in place...don't see him going through it. His claws, maybe, but the webbing would be stuck in his body and render him immovable way before he would have even be through half-way of cutting.
Originally posted by capt it up
becuase that what spiderman always does. he almost always if his webs dont work right away try and fight up close using his webs only a little.
Ok look at it from spidey's P.O.V. He knows Logan is as fast as you say. He knows he has claws and runs the risk of a stabbing despite being faster than Logan. he knows he has range which logan doesn't, so he would jump straight at him right? 🙄
Originally posted by Ritoshi
Heigtened senses can help you master something, and healing after training so you don't get tired and could train all day long helps.
You are right, but it and his simply helps him learn more and a faster then a normal human. But not to the point that he can master thousands of styles. He would have to master like twenty per year, and that would be simply impossible.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerIndeed. Well he still has mor ethan Bats cry
You are right, but it and his simply helps him learn more and a faster then a normal human. But not to the point that he can master thousands of styles. He would have to master like twenty per year, and that would be simply impossible.
it just makes me laugh to hear about ALL the forms..................after awhile it becomes moot just variations of variations and knowing a bajillion forms doesn't make you the best fighter it makes you the fighter that knows a bajillion forms.
Practical application of forms is strength......................knowing thousands is just garbage.
You are right, but it and his simply helps him learn more and a faster then a normal human. But not to the point that he can master thousands of styles. He would have to master like twenty per year, and that would be simply impossible.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Right through it? I have never seen him tear through a wall of webbing like that one there. It's true that he can rip small amounts of webbing, but big amount stop bullets in place...don't see him going through it. His claws, maybe, but the webbing would be stuck in his body and render him immovable way before he would have even be through half-way of cutting.
Originally posted by Tshern
Mastering 127 martial arts like Batman is also impossible. But in comics, if a person is given a skill set then he has it, thinking whether it really is possible or not doesn't change it. Being able to lift 100 tons casually isn't possible either, but still we usually don't question heroes doing it.
That's why I said that I don't think that Batman know close that many.
And they have powers to lift 100 tons. No skill needed.
But mastering styles actually needs to be learned through mind. There is no power shortcut to it.
