Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark. . . but. .You've never riden on a bus. . . and you've never been to new york. . . and you've never ridden a bus in new york. . .
Of course that only applies if you were serious.
Yes i have(holidays with my relatives).But no, not more times to know about their propensity to overspeed. Though if i might say, it take heck of speeding feat for him to close that distance.
Originally posted by Sixth_WingedSo Wolverine rode a bus, but it had to over speed to keep within the timeframe...
I was mainly pointing out his statement regarding the implied distance and the time it take to catch up with them.
Hmm... Seem like you're grasping at straws. So instead of time spent in the bus it was time spent in the webs. . .
Originally posted by Thunderstrikeyou mean that the webbing hardens rigid, with no elasticity at all?
He was in there long enough for the webbing to be weak enough to push out of. I'm not sure how long that would take. I don't know the full science of the webbing, but I do know that it wouldn't be easy to get out of immediately, and Wolverine would know he'd have to wait.
Wow, that's different from all of the webbing I've seen. . . Like when he catches someone it acts like a slightly stretchy mesh rather than them going splat.
Originally posted by Sixth_WingedAnd even more if he was in the web until it started to disolve.
Yes i have(holidays with my relatives).But no, not more times to know about their propensity to overspeed. Though if i might say, it take heck of speeding feat for him to close that distance.
You can ssee the damage on the time frame.
2 hrs in the web, and then another 2hrs+ or so in the bus...
as opposed to a few minutes in the webs and then the bus time?
Originally posted by jinzin
so wolverine got out of the webbing because it was dissolving in spite of...
Dude. For something to dissolve, it will deteriorate slowly. Therefore, if something is going to at one point be completely gone, it has to start unless it is going to disintegrate within seconds, or just explode. Spier-Man's webbing does niether. So, it's going to weaken over time. Also, there is no proof whatsoever that you have given that Wolverine broke it instantaneously.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Soo...Can wolverine take a hulk punch as you just implied? 😖hifty:
Yeah...he has a healing factor?
Originally posted by Creshosk
When has hulk ever. . . dude. "Hulk smash" ewhen has he not pnched with the intent of going through or absolutly demolishing what he's punching.?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Ad hoc et tu e quotee?Low end showings? How about "Daredevil could do it to an enhanced by the symbiote Spidey, so Wolverine could do it to the upgraded spidey"
Not should, will. Big difference.
So low end showings for the Hulk are okay (Hulk has knocked Wolverine down multiple times, but you always seem to go by the examples where Wolverine hasn't been knocked out by the Hulk). The Hulk not being able to knock out Wolverine is a low end showing for Hulk.
You also use low end showings for Spider-Man too...you know, him fighting like a retard against Wolverine is a low end showing because, well, he doesn't fight like a retard in his other fights.
But when low end showings are used with Wolverine, it suddenly is wrong? 🤨
Originally posted by Creshosk
Sure why not? What does that have to do with anything?If the event had happened more than once it might be a credible argument. . .
what's the next number in the pattern?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, what? 7?! it was -45328907 fool!
*sigh*
By your definition, all battles in FORUMS should go like they are in comics.
So...
With your logic, Superman couldn't defeat Batman because he hasn't done it before. He has all the means to do so, but he can't because he hasn't never done it in these particular instances, so it's not legible.
Flash couldn't speedblitz Captain Cold because he never does it in comics. He has all the means to do so, but he can't because he hasn't never done it in these particular instances, so it's not legible.
Wolverine can't use his martial art skills against some guys. He has never done so in comics. He has all the means to do so, but he can't because he hasn't never done it in these particular instances, so it's not legible.
Firelord can't vaporize Spider-Man with one thought because he has never done so in before. He has all the means to do so, but he can't because he hasn't never done it in these particular instances, so it's not legible.
Spider-Man can't use more webbing against Wolverine because he has never done it before. He has all the means to do so, but he can't because he hasn't never done it in these particular instances, so it's not legible.
I could continue forever.
Your logic, however isn't applied on forums because characters can use all the means available here if they want to. So Superman can take out Batman from range to avoid kryptonite because nothing stops him from doing it, Flash can speedblitz because nothing stops him from doing it, Spider-Man can hit Wolverine wherever he wants to because nothing stops him from doing it, etc.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yup. And I've seen spiderman giving it his all against wolverine before too.
Giving it his all in punching Wolverine's skull, yeah you are right there. Not giving it his all in techniques, fighting skills and even the use of webbing.
Originally posted by Creshosk
another ASS out of u me friend eh?or he could pull out his anti-punisher spray that he's never had before. . .
🙄
I'll wait until you can write something that can actually be answered to...
Originally posted by Creshosk
Namor. Watch I even got you to rant about it later on, even after saying that it was foolish. But in your bitterness about how the fight with namor went down you ignored the fact that I had agreed with you.The opposite of how you expect them to be you mean.
My favorite character is Jubilee... And yes, at least you admitred to being bitter about Namor.
Que rant:
Yup bitter.
Yeah, I already admitted that I was bitter about my favorite character acting like a retard against Wolverine...whats your point?
Originally posted by Creshosk
And even more if he was in the web until it started to disolve.You can ssee the damage on the time frame.
2 hrs in the web, and then another 2hrs+ or so in the bus...
as opposed to a few minutes in the webs and then the bus time?
Well let's see the timeframe then
-kid blast logan and spidey webbed him, then they webswinged away
-1st page, where logan was stuck wandering how long it will take to dissolve and reminscing how it happened.
-Wolverine manages to free himself -Spider-man and the kid just arrived, started their conversation and Peter sees his dad's corpse.
-Wolverine was still seen on the bus
-Spider-man just finished their conversation with the kid and got blasted
-Wolverine arrived and out comes spidey smashing through the front door.
Don't tell me the dialogue between Spider-man and the kid took that long for Wolverine to arrive in the nick of time to see Spider-man got shot right through the door.
Originally posted by ThunderstrikeYou haven't given any proof that it took the full two hours.
Dude. For something to dissolve, it will deteriorate slowly. Therefore, if something is going to at one point be completely gone, it has to start unless it is going to disintegrate within seconds, or just explode. Spier-Man's webbing does niether. So, it's going to weaken over time. Also, there is no proof whatsoever that you have given that Wolverine broke it instantaneously.
And yeah, the webs weren't budging beyond their usual elasticity.
*points to scan*
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerOkay good.
Yeah...he has a healing factor?
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerOr you know not cause Wolverine isn't that easy to knock out outside of plot circumstances. . .
So low end showings for the Hulk are okay (Hulk has knocked Wolverine down multiple times, but you always seem to go by the examples where Wolverine hasn't been knocked out by the Hulk). The Hulk not being able to knock out Wolverine is a low end showing for Hulk.
And what happens the majortiy of the time?
Oh yeah, forgot that part of the equation didn't you?
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerBut hey, it's consistant, which as we know dictates plausability. Well at least as far as logic and science go. after all if you drop a penny fifty times and it floats once, why would you assume its going to float again?
You also use low end showings for Spider-Man too...you know, him fighting like a retard against Wolverine is a low end showing because, well, he doesn't fight like a retard in his other fights.
Why would you establish that as the norm?
Oh that's right cause it was cool and therefore your favorite.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerConsistency. 😉
But when low end showings are used with Wolverine, it suddenly is wrong? 🤨
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerWell hey you get to pick based on what you like rather than going with what happens most of the time?
*sigh*
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerfollowing the alterations dictated by the rules of the forum.
By your definition, all battles in FORUMS should go like they are in comics.
As in Spiderman versus Wolverine don't expect either of them to shoot energy at each other. unless specified that they do so.
Cause hey I'm debating Spiderman versus Wolverine, Not Spiderman with a fighting skill higher than 4 versues Wolverine with a fighting skill of 4. Unless spcified. . . which it wasn't.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerOh oh ! I know this one! I know this one!
So...With your logic, Superman couldn't defeat Batman because he hasn't done it before.He has all the means to do so, but he can't because he hasn't never done it in these particular instances, so it's not legible.
Flash couldn't speedblitz Captain Cold because he never does it in comics. He has all the means to do so, but he can't because he hasn't never done it in these particular instances, so it's not legible.
Wolverine can't use his martial art skills against some guys. He has never done so in comics. He has all the means to do so, but he can't because he hasn't never done it in these particular instances, so it's not legible.
Firelord can't vaporize Spider-Man with one thought because he has never done so in before. He has all the means to do so, but he can't because he hasn't never done it in these particular instances, so it's not legible.
Spider-Man can't use more webbing against Wolverine because he has never done it before. He has all the means to do so, but he can't because he hasn't never done it in these particular instances, so it's not legible.
I could continue forever.
Itz the strawman. 😄 Exagerating the opponents argument, thus creating a new argument that you attack and counter. . . problem is it leave my actual arguments completely untouched. 🙂
You could continue forever, of course it'd be a wate of both of our times since that's not the argument I made. 🙂
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerYour axagerations of my logic you mean.. . so really its your own logic. 😉
Your logic,
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerYup, "Unless otherwise specified"
however isn't applied on forums because characters can use all the means available here if they want to. So Superman can take out Batman from range to avoid kryptonite because nothing stops him from doing it, Flash can speedblitz because nothing stops him from doing it, Spider-Man can hit Wolverine wherever he wants to because nothing stops him from doing it, etc.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerUnless he doesn't have said techniques, why would he suddenly develop said techniques?
Giving it his all in punching Wolverine's skull, yeah you are right there. Not giving it his all in techniques, fighting skills and even the use of webbing.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlermeaning you are completely incapable of responding to what I do write, so rather than admit your inability to respond to what I actually give you you are going to blame me, because you don't like what I'm saying, it must therefore be bad.
I'll wait until you can write something that can actually be answered to...
That's about as big a cop out as "It was PIS, he was jobbing, or I don't like it."
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerSo would you admit that this bitterness might be tainting your veiws? 😖hifty:
Yeah, I already admitted that I was bitter about my favorite character acting like a retard against Wolverine...whats your point?
Cause the way you went off on me for agreeing with you certainly makes it seem you see things that aren't there. 😉
Originally posted by ThunderstrikeOh I'm sorry I thought you knew how long it takes for the webbing to dissovle. Cause sixth winged said it was common knowledge...
I never said two hours either.
I guess you both got it wrong huh?
Originally posted by ThunderstrikeUntil they started to disolve right? How long exactly? 😖hifty:
I just said that Wolverine would have to wait a little bit to break them.
Originally posted by ThunderstrikeDon't tell people to pay attention when you're the one that's not.
He had to break some to budge free first. Pay attention.
He never had to break anything, the elasticity of the webbing allowed him to budge.
Originally posted by AJ4LIFEI don't see how you can make such a claim.
creshok we got off to a bad start on here but all id forgotten ok teammate, but spidey can take him worly will get nocked out adventually with spideys strength
He hasn't done it before, despite trying.
He's really wailed on Wolverine before. and He didn't knock him out.
and no one has explained where this magical abiltiy to acheive what he has failed to do is coming from.
Spiderman has tried to knock wolverine out.
"Most people would be wonder jell-o by now"
and failed
"I can't get him to stop smiling"
despite trying really hard
"I give it everything I've got"
So why can he suddenly do what he couldn't before?
When did he gain the ability to fly, or shoot lasers from his eyes or other ridiculous scenerio that's equally valid in comparison?
Creshok, I already went over this.
If something dissolves, it doesn't just poof.
For Wolverine to get the webbing to move at all, he would have to wait until it got weaker.
Would it take two hours for the elasticity and stickyness, and other elements of the webbing to weaken enough for Wolverine to break free? No, because it will get weaker gradually until the two hours is up.