Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by who?-kid1,019 pages

Originally posted by jinzin
that's a complete assumption on your part.. had wolverine been stuck there an hour he NEVER would have arrived in time to save spiderman..

there's no time reference given and even less indication that the webbing has dissolved..


True. Nobody knows exactly how long Wolverine was hanging there like an idiot. And yes, he freed himself.

Big deal.

It wasn't easy for Wolverine, and it took some time and some pain. In that time, Spider-Man could have drowned him in the Hudson River, or put him on the railroads lol.

Webbing works very well. That's the main reason uninspired writers don't use much webs in the Spider-Man - Wolverine fights.

I don't understand how you can NOT see this as a clear victory for Spider-Man... Wolverine was completely helpless, and was lucky Spider-Man wasn't in a killing mood !

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Majority of the time? Hulk punches him one time and leaves him alone. Wolverine heals. Wolverine comes back. What happens when strong guys don't let him heal? Wolverine gets pwnd.

Spider-Man fighting like retard is...not consistant. It only seems to happen against Wolverine. Let me explain it veeeery slowly.

Spider-Man fights Doctor Octopus - the way he is fighting him isn't working - Spider-Man finds new way and defeats his opponent.

Spider-Man fights Green Goblin - the way he is fighting him isn't working - Spider-Man finds new way and defeats his opponent.

Spider-Man fights Lizard - the way he is fighting him isn't working - Spider-Man finds new way and defeats his opponent.

Spider-Man fights Scorpion - the way he is fighting him isn't working - Spider-Man finds new way and defeats his opponent.

Spider-Man fights Wolverine - the way he is fightning him isn't working - [b]Spider-Man doesn't even try to find a new way and continues fighting like he has been fighting thus far, hence fighting like a retard.

Out of 10 fights, 9,9 of them is Spider-Man fighting intelligently against enemy...guess which the remaining 0,1 fights are...fights with Wolverine.

Now what was that talk about being consistant?

Unconsistency is the word you are looking for.

Yeah. And Spider-man fights intelligently most of the time.

And I expect them fight like they do most of the time. Do you know how small part of Spider-Man's fights are his fights with Wolverine? Pretty damn small.

Let's see - what was your argument again?

"Spider-Man only punches Wolverine in the head when fighting him. That's what he does all the time. That's what he is going to do here".

Let's answer that.

Me: He can still do other things then punching at same part all the time...he has done so before, against many, many other opponents."

You: But he hasn't done it against Wolverine.

Me: But when he has all the means and ways to do so and the older way isn't working, why not change his technique?

You: But he can't. He has never done it before.

Me: What do you mean, yes he has...multiple times.

You: But not against Wolverine.

Me: So? Superman has never speedblitzed Batman, but he has done it to other opponents. Nothing at all stops him doing the same to Batman. Does Wolverine have some magical aura that forbiddens Spider-Man use techniques he already has used in the past, when he has all the means to do so, and nothing Wolverine can do to stop it?

You: He has never done it against Wolverine, so he can't do it.

Now, let's change the people.

"Flash never speedblizes Captain Cold or dodges his ice blasts. He can't do it here".

Let's answer that.

Me: He has still dodged faster and better things then the ice blasts from his gun, and he has also speedblized people in the past, countless times.

You: But he hasn't done it against Captain Cold.

Me: But when he has all the means and ways to do so and the older way isn't working, why not change his technique?

You: But he can't. He has never done it before.

Me: What do you mean, yes he has...multiple times.

You: But not against Captain Cold.

Me: So? Superman has never speedblitzed Batman, but he has done it to other opponents. Nothing at all stops him doing the same to Batman. Does Captain Cold have some magical aura that forbiddens Flash use techniques he already has used in the past, when he has all the means to do so, and nothing Captain Cold can do to stop it?

You: He has never done it against Captain Cold, so he can't do it.

It's the same thing. Spider-Man has means to defeat Wolverine, and there is nothing that can stop him doing it. But by your logic if someone hasn't done something against a particular opponent, even if they have done it to other opponent before, they can't do it now.

I guess that since Spider-Man has never used his webbing on Nightcrawler, I guess he can't do it here. Oh yeah, I think he has never webbed Rhinos legs before, so won't happen on fight.

Tell me again, what stops Spider-Man punching Logan through stomach? Because I don't see any stops here if we aren't going by your "He hasn't done it to a particular opponent before" logic.

Nah, it's your logic.

But he has the said techniques.

It's not really easy to answer to a smilie, is it?

Nope, nothing is tainting my views. [/B]


👆

Yeah, blah blah blah, more Dark Crawlers bitter delusions. 🙂

Originally posted by who?-kid
True. Nobody knows exactly how long Wolverine was hanging there like an idiot. And yes, he freed himself.

Big deal.

It wasn't easy for Wolverine, and it took some time and some pain. In that time, Spider-Man could have drowned him in the Hudson River, or put him on the railroads lol.

Webbing works very well. That's the main reason uninspired writers don't use much webs in the Spider-Man - Wolverine fights.

I don't understand how you can NOT see this as a clear victory for Spider-Man... Wolverine was completely helpless, and was lucky Spider-Man wasn't in a killing mood !

We just covered that.

More fanboyism from the sanboys.

SAd really they STILL can't bring anything new that hasn't been countered. 😆

Pity ❌

[QUOTE=6342247]Originally posted by Creshosk
He got out of that ... so no it doesn't.

He've been hanging there for a long time so it does count.

Since... he never thinkls to do that... 😄

So you think that Wolverine wins because Spider-man is too noble to hit him where it would knock him down?

No no, Wolverine tried to beat venom nad failed. yay again for inabilities to follow trains of thought.

Express yourself clearly then.
So you think that Wolverine can beat Venom but you admit that he couldn't beat even his clone?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah, blah blah blah, more Dark Crawlers bitter delusions. 🙂

I've noticed you're avoiding what he's saying. Why is that?

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
I've noticed you're avoiding what he's saying. Why is that?
Because it's more bitter rantings. That's all.
So until he brings up something worth responding to, not Spiderman vs Svorpion or Spiderman vs lizard, goblin or oc, and remembers the topic thread and can stick to it and realize that there is consistency despite his bitter rantings. . .

well what should I say?

There there it's okay Wolverine beats alot of people's favorite characters?

Sorry, but I'm not the consoling type.

Actually, read it. He's on topic.

Originally posted by samishe
He got out of that ... so no it doesn't.

He've been hanging there for a long time so it does count.[/b]

Prove it, until you do your claim is categorically false.

Originally posted by samishe
[B]Since... he never thinkls to do that... 😄

So you think that Wolverine wins because Spider-man is too noble to hit him where it would knock him down?[/b]

No genius pay attention, Wolverine wins because he'll outlast spiderman, and thats all, until then it's a draw with neither gaining the edge.

Originally posted by samishe
[B]No no, Wolverine tried to beat venom nad failed. yay again for inabilities to follow trains of thought.

Express yourself clearly then.[/b]

I thought I did, you talked about things happeneing the never happened before despite trying.

And I mentioned Wolverine beating venom being a possability then, should have been blatently obvious that it had never happened in the comics. I guess I gave you too much credit. There are the train tracks, now follow the train of thought better next time.

Originally posted by samishe
So you think that Wolverine can beat Venom but you admit that he couldn't beat even his clone?
🙄 Waaaaaaay too much credit.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Actually, read it. He's on topic.
I did read it.

"Sniffle sniffle boo hoo

Spiderman does this with goblin.. and sniff sniiff he does this with this characters. . .andd boohoohoo. . .I can't handle what hapens with wolverine, cause I'm still sore over what happened with wolverine."

Basic translation.

😬

🙂

[QUOTE=6343486]Originally posted by Creshosk
Prove it, until you do your claim is categorically false.

🙄 So if Spider-man webbed me and in hour the web dissapeared and i broke free, it means that webbing doesn't work on me?

No genius pay attention, Wolverine wins because he'll outlast spiderman, and thats all, until then it's a draw with neither gaining the edge.

Funny genius, You agree that DD defeated Wolverine by hitting him in the neck, and you said that Spider-man wont hit him the way DD, so he wont win, it means you admit that if he did he would win.
You can't keep up with your own words.[/B]

I thought I did, you talked about things happeneing the never happened before despite trying.

You know, my english isn't good at all, but it's good enough to understand anyone on this forum, anyone but you...

When i talked about something that never happened in comix?

Hang on didn't someone say that Beast beat Wolverine................thats funny he doesn't have more stamina then Spiderman.................or speed, or skill or strength or tools wait is there a trend here.

Originally posted by samishe
Prove it, until you do your claim is categorically false.

🙄 So if Spider-man webbed me and in hour the web dissapeared and i broke free, it means that webbing doesn't work on me?[/b]

Since that didn't happen it has no valid point of comparison. 🙂

Originally posted by samishe
[B] No genius pay attention, Wolverine wins because he'll outlast spiderman, and thats all, until then it's a draw with neither gaining the edge.

Funny genius, You agree that DD defeated Wolverine by hitting him in the neck, and you said that Spider-man wont hit him the way DD, so he wont win, it means you admit that if he did he would win.
You can't keep up with your own words.[/B][/b]

Oh oh, so that Addmidion by ommision tactic.

HA! Sorry but tjust because I don't comment on something doesn't mean I agree with it. 😄

Originally posted by samishe
[B]I thought I did, you talked about things happeneing the never happened before despite trying.

You know, my english isn't good at all, but it's good enough to understand anyone on this forum, anyone but you...[/b]

Yeah, damn me and my condeluded verbiage...

Originally posted by samishe
When i talked about something that never happened in comix?
That's something we were talking about, and you say I'm the one that can't keep up. 🙄

Originally posted by Soleran
Hang on didn't someone say that Beast beat Wolverine................thats funny he doesn't have more stamina then Spiderman.................or speed, or skill or strength or tools wait is there a trend here.
And how about the time Wolverine put beast doen in one panel or stalmated him?

Yeah yeah, once again you go with what you think looks good rather than what is consistant.

Cue DC rant and whine session.

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't think that Spiderman fought this badguy or this one was the topic of the thread. Wolverine killed some ninjas after all. 🙂

Wait I wasn't ranting about it at all, actually you just seem to point out that Spiderfans are always crying PIS now so are you...............

Originally posted by Soleran
Wait I wasn't ranting about it at all, actually you just seem to point out that Spiderfans are always crying PIS now so are you...............
Nope, I'm not. I'm pointing out that there are other cases which are conviently being ignored. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk

...condeluded verbiage...

Yeah, that's what i was talking about 😄

Originally posted by Creshosk
We just covered that.

More fanboyism from the sanboys.

SAd really they STILL can't bring anything new that hasn't been countered. 😆

Pity ❌


Oh you guys covered that ? Where ? When ? This thread is more than 600 pages, so you'll just have to excuse me when I say I don't remember exactly the post that "covered that".

Spider-Man can web Wolverine up. Fact. He has done it with stronger, faster and more dangerous enemies. Fact. When webbed up, Wolverine is immobile. Fact. Spider-Man wins. Fact.

Please, next time, give me an answer that is more than "we already got that covered thank you."