Originally posted by capt it up
oh it ture all right, same thign with spiderman and his spidersense to say wolverine does not have that ability becuase he gets hit is like saying spiderman does not have spidersense because he gets hit.sbaertooth has not won a match in a very long tiem vs wolverine actauly wolverine killed sabertooth. also u most no almsot nuthing about sabertooth if ur sayign he a loser. sabertooth is a beast.
ya scot shot of age of apoc wolverin ehad when they were inch away from eachother lol. also ur using age as apoc as evidence? u do realize that unuseable in a 616 battle.
u asking me to get soruces that are not old? how about u get a single source then we will talk
If you can use material that is two decades old, then I can use whatever the **** I want.
WOLVERINE DOES NOT HAVE A SPIDERSENSE OR ANYTHING CLOSE TO IT
And can wolverine do any of this?
Here he runs through the Avengers Mansion's security and traps without even being touched, and noone even sees him coming:
Here he jumps THROUGH a van flying through the air, rescues the person inside it, and hightails it out before it hits a wall:
and this one is REALLY nuts, he is drugged and off balance and still he WEBS BULLETS AND DODGES THEM
This...is Wolverine after his face was BLOWN OFF by Punisher with a shotgun. MK Punisher #17
wolverine can do all of that well ecpt shoot webing.
Wolverine has shown that not only is his agility and reflexes are fast enough to dodge Spiderman’s webbing, but that his hands move quite fast enough to cut it easily. also wolverine is clearly fast enough to hit spiderman
(Giant-sized x-men #4) wolverine and night crawler make a bet that night crawler is still just as fast as he is with out his teleporting. Wolverine proves him wrong in a flash by moving his hands so fast that he has two claws on either side of night crawlers neck. Wolverine proving that his hand speed is quite easily fast enough to catch night crawler whose agility and reflexes are quite high.
(Uncanny x-men vs. X-23 # 451) x-23 lunges attacks wolverine with both her claws at once and wolverine with one hand catches both her arms before she hits him. This feat shows that wolverine arm speed is quite fast, so fast then even he clone who as I recall gave Spiderman some trouble is not nearly as fast.
(X-men what price victory?! # 102) this feat is actually many feats in one. It is a strength, skill and hand movement speed in one. Wolverine attacks Domina with just his fists and gives her quite a beating and right before he does this she had just taken out his entire team. She hit night crawler in mid teleporting and she beat the crap out colossus and the rest of the team. Wolverine using his speed skill and strength manages to give her a beating though he does not KO her he is able to hurt her enough for his team to escape.
(Wolverine 182) wolverines hand movements are pretty dam fast and this is not a high end feat.
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine18220lowres1ig.jpg
Wolverine hand speed is amazingly fast and accurate as shown in the picture below.
http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skillandspeed0vb.jpg
(Wolverine #22) wolverine hand speed is so fast it is able to cut the darts shot out of the dart gun right out of the air. Since my scanner broken I can not show u what happen after this picture, but u can look it up your self. Not only did wolverine cut those darts out of the air, but he is so skill he made them shot into another guy with out the guy noticing.
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine347fe.jpg
This is not a high end hand movement feat but it still pretty fast; wolverine hands moving so fast it seem like there like 5 of them.
http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=logan20vs20fixit32ea.jpg
(Wolverine #23) This picture shows wolverine hands move every fast. The sad part is I do not have the scan of what happens after wolverine does this. On the next page every part of the cyborg that is not human was cut off. This show that not only does his hands move immensely fast, but that he is also beyond skilled with his weapon of choice.
http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine406ut.jpg
Low end feat but still quite fast.
http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sweet8pn.jpg
Wolverine cutting a rocket powered dart out of the air.
http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolveirnecutingbullet3yp.jpg
Reflex and agility dodging feats.
(Wolverine #9 coyote crossing part 3) this picture below shows some good dodging and agility. The next few pages which I do not have scans on my computer are in my option more impressive. Wolverine in the few pages after the one posted below dodge a lot more gun firer from a lot more men and while charging them with out taking a single hit.
http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wpyrate09181rt.jpg
(marvel team-up Spiderman and wolverine #117) wolverine using his agility and reflex and fighting skill takes out army of guys while dodging lasers, which is even mentioned in the text.
(Wolverine #120) wolverine is pinned between to cars he can move his legs and he still a guy shoot a hand gun at him from like 2 feet away and he still manages to move his head enough to dodge the bullet almost completely even though he is stuck. This is a low end feat, but I thought it was worth a mention.
Wolverine dodging the living lightning using his senses and speed to do it.
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinespeedfeat4hi.jpg
(Wolverine #142) wolverine through out this comic shows some pretty impressive dodging feats. He dodges laser and machine gun firer quite easily.
Speed feat. Wolverine is pretty dam fast. He is faster then human eye can see at times.
http://img145.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc54&image=22730_fast.jpg
(wolverine #97) wolverine while fight a bunch of guys in metal suits manages to while charging one to not be hit by a single bullet and when the guy is firing at him with two very high powered machine guns.
(House of M #3) wolverine while fighting his squadron manages not to be hit by a single bullet and even at one point shows the bullets in slow motion next to him. Also at one point night crawler teleport a foot or so away from him shooting as shown as he appear and wolverine still just ducks under the firer and crab night crawler tail easily with out getting hit.
(Wolverine #133) wolverine easily dodges energy blast sent his way by power house.
(x-men classic #55) wolverine dodges a laser blast front a sentinel even after prof.x was in his h3ad and made him lose his stride.
(Wolverine weaponx the origin of wolverine) soldier shoot bullets at wolverine and are shown to look like there in slow motion to wolverine.
(x-men x-cutioner’s song chapter 6) cable firer a gun at wolverine from point blank wolverine dodges it then cut cables gun.
(Wolverine #24) wolverine dodges a bullet from a trained assassin from close range and even comment on how easy it is.
(Wolverine in Black Shadow! White Shadow! Chapter one the killing ground) has wolverine cutting a guys gun to piece with out him even seeing it. Also in the same issue wolverine dodges a bunch of machinegun firer.
(Wolverine #40) wolverine well carrying a girl dodges beams of deadly light.
(Wolverine vs Spiderman nuff said? #48) wolverine has a little fist fight with Spiderman and seems to have had the upper hand in the battle.
(wolverine #137) wolverine dodges a bunch of lasers.
(x-men #103) wolverine shows some his agility well getting out of a trap rogue get him in.
Wolverines fast look at how he saves night crawler
http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speed4fn.jpg
(Wolverine soultalker 3) wolverine in a small room easily dodges the beam this witch girl shoots at him.
Wolverine is quite fast and accurate
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev1068170in.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev1068183cz.jpg
(Wolverine #53) a rocket is flying through the air as it goes by wolverine he stabs it with his claws and leaps on it. In order to do this feat u would need amazingly fast reflexes and agility.
so ya wolverine can do those thing u showed
Originally posted by capt it up
wolverine can do all of that well ecpt shoot webing.Wolverine has shown that not only is his agility and reflexes are fast enough to dodge Spiderman’s webbing, but that his hands move quite fast enough to cut it easily. also wolverine is clearly fast enough to hit spiderman
(Giant-sized x-men #4) wolverine and night crawler make a bet that night crawler is still just as fast as he is with out his teleporting. Wolverine proves him wrong in a flash by moving his hands so fast that he has two claws on either side of night crawlers neck. Wolverine proving that his hand speed is quite easily fast enough to catch night crawler whose agility and reflexes are quite high.
(Uncanny x-men vs. X-23 # 451) x-23 lunges attacks wolverine with both her claws at once and wolverine with one hand catches both her arms before she hits him. This feat shows that wolverine arm speed is quite fast, so fast then even he clone who as I recall gave Spiderman some trouble is not nearly as fast.
(X-men what price victory?! # 102) this feat is actually many feats in one. It is a strength, skill and hand movement speed in one. Wolverine attacks Domina with just his fists and gives her quite a beating and right before he does this she had just taken out his entire team. She hit night crawler in mid teleporting and she beat the crap out colossus and the rest of the team. Wolverine using his speed skill and strength manages to give her a beating though he does not KO her he is able to hurt her enough for his team to escape.
(Wolverine 182) wolverines hand movements are pretty dam fast and this is not a high end feat.
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine18220lowres1ig.jpgWolverine hand speed is amazingly fast and accurate as shown in the picture below.
http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skillandspeed0vb.jpg(Wolverine #22) wolverine hand speed is so fast it is able to cut the darts shot out of the dart gun right out of the air. Since my scanner broken I can not show u what happen after this picture, but u can look it up your self. Not only did wolverine cut those darts out of the air, but he is so skill he made them shot into another guy with out the guy noticing.
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine347fe.jpgThis is not a high end hand movement feat but it still pretty fast; wolverine hands moving so fast it seem like there like 5 of them.
http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=logan20vs20fixit32ea.jpg(Wolverine #23) This picture shows wolverine hands move every fast. The sad part is I do not have the scan of what happens after wolverine does this. On the next page every part of the cyborg that is not human was cut off. This show that not only does his hands move immensely fast, but that he is also beyond skilled with his weapon of choice.
http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine406ut.jpgLow end feat but still quite fast.
http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sweet8pn.jpgWolverine cutting a rocket powered dart out of the air.
http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolveirnecutingbullet3yp.jpgReflex and agility dodging feats.
(Wolverine #9 coyote crossing part 3) this picture below shows some good dodging and agility. The next few pages which I do not have scans on my computer are in my option more impressive. Wolverine in the few pages after the one posted below dodge a lot more gun firer from a lot more men and while charging them with out taking a single hit.
http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wpyrate09181rt.jpg(marvel team-up Spiderman and wolverine #117) wolverine using his agility and reflex and fighting skill takes out army of guys while dodging lasers, which is even mentioned in the text.
(Wolverine #120) wolverine is pinned between to cars he can move his legs and he still a guy shoot a hand gun at him from like 2 feet away and he still manages to move his head enough to dodge the bullet almost completely even though he is stuck. This is a low end feat, but I thought it was worth a mention.
Wolverine dodging the living lightning using his senses and speed to do it.
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinespeedfeat4hi.jpg(Wolverine #142) wolverine through out this comic shows some pretty impressive dodging feats. He dodges laser and machine gun firer quite easily.
Speed feat. Wolverine is pretty dam fast. He is faster then human eye can see at times.
http://img145.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc54&image=22730_fast.jpg(wolverine #97) wolverine while fight a bunch of guys in metal suits manages to while charging one to not be hit by a single bullet and when the guy is firing at him with two very high powered machine guns.
(House of M #3) wolverine while fighting his squadron manages not to be hit by a single bullet and even at one point shows the bullets in slow motion next to him. Also at one point night crawler teleport a foot or so away from him shooting as shown as he appear and wolverine still just ducks under the firer and crab night crawler tail easily with out getting hit.
(Wolverine #133) wolverine easily dodges energy blast sent his way by power house.
(x-men classic #55) wolverine dodges a laser blast front a sentinel even after prof.x was in his h3ad and made him lose his stride.
(Wolverine weaponx the origin of wolverine) soldier shoot bullets at wolverine and are shown to look like there in slow motion to wolverine.(x-men x-cutioner’s song chapter 6) cable firer a gun at wolverine from point blank wolverine dodges it then cut cables gun.
(Wolverine #24) wolverine dodges a bullet from a trained assassin from close range and even comment on how easy it is.
(Wolverine in Black Shadow! White Shadow! Chapter one the killing ground) has wolverine cutting a guys gun to piece with out him even seeing it. Also in the same issue wolverine dodges a bunch of machinegun firer.
(Wolverine #40) wolverine well carrying a girl dodges beams of deadly light.
(Wolverine vs Spiderman nuff said? #48) wolverine has a little fist fight with Spiderman and seems to have had the upper hand in the battle.
(wolverine #137) wolverine dodges a bunch of lasers.
(x-men #103) wolverine shows some his agility well getting out of a trap rogue get him in.Wolverines fast look at how he saves night crawler
http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speed4fn.jpg(Wolverine soultalker 3) wolverine in a small room easily dodges the beam this witch girl shoots at him.
Wolverine is quite fast and accurate
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev1068170in.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev1068183cz.jpg(Wolverine #53) a rocket is flying through the air as it goes by wolverine he stabs it with his claws and leaps on it. In order to do this feat u would need amazingly fast reflexes and agility.
so ya wolverine can do those thing u showed
Yes, Wolverine has had his fair share of speed, reflex, and agility feats... but none of them come close to some of the stuff that Spider-man has pulled off in the past. ❌
Originally posted by batdude123
Yes, Wolverine has had his fair share of speed, reflex, and agility feats... but none of them come close to some of the stuff that Spider-man has pulled off in the past. ❌
All of these useless feats(most of which are against normal humans, and some of which his opponent wasn't using her full ability) and yet...you admitted Spiderman is still faster. Seems like all of your scans are for nothing except for gunking up your keyboard.
Spiderman is faster, you know this, Spiderman is stronger, you know this, Spiderman has a spider sense. Wolverine's ONLY advantage in a fight is his claws and healing.
It's no use arguing with you. You once said Wolverine could beat The One Above All. You are too much of a fanboy to even talk to.
Originally posted by capt it up
yet u show no evidence. also my debate is not that spiderman is nto fast but that spiderman not so much faster that it make sa diffrence at all sicne wolverine can clearly hit him.
This feat speaks for itself. Here’s Spider-man dodging Electro’s blasts, a guys whip, bullets, and a guy’s punch all one right after the other in sequential order with no break:
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermandodging5mj.jpg
http://img289.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermandodging21om.jpg
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
All of these useless feats(most of which are against normal humans, and some of which his opponent wasn't using her full ability) and yet...you admitted Spiderman is still faster. Seems like all of your scans are for nothing except for gunking up your keyboard.Spiderman is faster, you know this, Spiderman is stronger, you know this, Spiderman has a spider sense. Wolverine's ONLY advantage in a fight is his claws and healing.
It's no use arguing with you. You once said Wolverine could beat The One Above All. You are too much of a fanboy to even talk to.
also I love how u do a personal attacks becuase my evidence was far better then urs. admitt it u could no counter my feats and u had nuthign so u decided ur best course of action would be a personal attack which amd eu look pethetic by the way.
Originally posted by capt it up
dude I love how u right off my feats i post. u gott owned u know it. yes spiderman a little fast but the piont is it not enough of a diffrense that it matter when u add in the fact wolverine far superior in skill durability and stamina.also I love how u do personal attacks becuase my evidence was far betetr then urs.
You type like cripples dance. Please. Stop it.
Originally posted by willRules
Could classic Sabretooth could dodge multiple gunfire/lasers etc??? 😕
well yeah, the guy used to dodge automatic gunfire...
Originally posted by willRules
Ok fair enough the intelligence may or may not come into play but I would think that spidey's superhuman reflexes alone would be greater than sabretooths (By how much I don't know) and combined with the spider-sense spidey outclasses creed..........
Originally posted by willRules
When you take into account the fact that Logan shouldn't be able to land a hit due to being ridiculously outclassed, physically, I think I'm being too generous to Logan ✅
when you take into account that spiderman is RARELY shown to be near the speed you're making him out to be comparitive to the number of times he's been hit by street levels.. no you're seriously not..
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
That IS enraged Spider-Man. You can be angry without fighting like a retard...Venom had just killed a man there. He was pissed off. Like he said "No more chances, dirtbag". And then owned him.
to be fair spiderman was fighting another retard there... that doesn't prove a thing...
Originally posted by Jade Lightning
If you just tried to say that spiderman is nowhere near as durable as wolverine, I think you need to take a look at Spiderman's battle with Morlun, both of them, or maybe his battles with Hulk... Sure wolverine might be more durable, but not by much, and this doesn't mean he's going to win, it means he can take hits better, but Spiderman will be hitting him harder and doing more damage than wolverine.And as for the rage, that was close to a rage for Spiderman, and Cap, if you're going to say he fights like a retard when enraged, you need to show proof, because every time I have ever seen Spiderman go into a rage, his opponent stands little chance of victory, he gets stronger, faster, and even more calculating if that's possible.
Just because wolverine could beat Peter Parker in a sword fight and has more martial arts under his belt doesn't mean those fighting skills are superior to Spiderman's. He is the more skilled fighter, but as is mentioned time and again on Marvel's official website and handbook on Spiderman, he has invented his own style unique in the Marvel Universe that is capable of matching virtually any foe toe to toe.
spiderman gets mad fighting captain america.. cap puts him on his ass
he gets enraged fighting daredevil..dd knocks him out.
he goes into a furious rage fighting the white ninja.. the white ninja mops the floor with his face...
a fighting mad spidey is a stupid mad spidey and he proves this time after time..
showing examples of an angry spiderman taking down a comparatively inexperienced fighter like that new venom, or gg, really isn't the same as showing a pissed of spiderman taken down a well trained killing machine like logan.
