Originally posted by srankmissingninI once caught a fly with chopsticks. Serious.
You being an ass doesn't change the fact that you can't get any higher in accuracy then STABBING A BUG. If you'd like to tell me how pointing that out somehow hurts my credibility I'd be glad to hear it but if you are going to be an dick maybe you should just be quite while the adults finish their debate.
Originally posted by batmanrulesI feel that spiderman would win against wolverine mind over matter in a direct battle wolverine of course spiderman use his interlect in fights!
wolverine, hes just way to damn crazy. he'll go medieval on spidys ass. and someone said that spidy could web him up and drop him from a building. wolverines not going to let him to that. hell slice right through the web the get a slice into spidy
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Originally posted by capt it up
lol ur sucha tool some times. you know what i ment I did not mean the general deffenition.
By the deffenition a boxer is a amrtial artist even a wrestler.Spiderman can not punch a whole through wolverines stomack.
They are actually. Any kind of trained fighter is considered a martial artist. Spider-Man is no different. He developed his own fighting style using his skills. He practices his own martial art. That means, he's a MARTIAL ARTIST.
Originally posted by capt it up
don't get me wrong spiderman a good fight and skilled at what he does, but he not a trained fighter not a fighter that know best possable place to attack and such. Take away peters powers and he get his ass kicked by a common thug.again based on comic evidence of what wolverines body has taken that would be impossable for spiderman to do when stronger people have failed.
also wolverine muscle were enchanced to give him greater durability and strength. His body with out his healign factor is naterually tougher then that of even a peakhumans.
Take away Spidey's powers, and he'd probably still punk any common thug. He's been fighting close to his whole life, he won't be left COMPLETELY powerless without his abilities.
Why is this impossibile to do? Just because no one else has done it to Wolvie, doesn't make it impossible. Wolverine is very much able to be impaled, greater durability included. And Spidey produces more than enough power to punch through his stomach. Once there, he just reaches up and grabs his heart. Ouchies.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine spent years (two I think) on the X-Men before we even found out he had a healing factor. In that time he had taken blows from Colossus, Juggernaught, Demons who punted Colossus like he was nothing, and a whole slew of other characters with out ever having his skin puntured... even took a plast from Firelord with out blistering. He has degree of superhuman durability, hell even with out his healing factor he has shown feats of superhuman durability.I don't know if Spider-man could punch through Wolverine' stomach BUT if he can it isn't going to work in his favor. With Wolverine's rappid healing factor the wound would heal around Spider-man's arm making it a simple task for Wolverine to lop it off. Also it is extremely out of character for Spider-man to do that and CIS isn't turned off.
Oh God. Another argument for his healing factor being able to instantly heal him like that. Okay. Wolverine heals very quickly. We know this. But it also takes more time depending on the severity of the wound. He heals bullet wounds quickly. He will not, however, be able to heal an arm through his torso in any sort of quick speed, especially with the arm still there and still causing damage.
Also, this is a hypothetical fight. PIS/CIS/Plot devices are a non-factor here. Spidey can do whatever the hell he wants to defeat his opponents. The out-of-character argument is null and void here.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
But the rules of the forum state both character's fight at full potential. Wolverine has tangled with the Hulk.I'm not voting for either one, but I'm just saying. 😉
And Spidey has tangled with the Hulk as well. And Juggernaut. And Venom, Carnage, Sandman, Hydroman, MORLUN, etc...
Originally posted by capt it up
I am not even looking at wolverine high end showings. Wolverine has taken hits from all sorts of high ton elvel people and it ahs never happen. So take ur pick between any number of characters. I am not using low end showing of spiderman at all. I am saying based of constant showings of wolverine taikng hit form people far stronger then spiderman then it would be impossable for spiderman to punch a whole through him.Also like I stated if u are using this logic of yours that spiderman can punch a whole through wolverine then that means wolverine not only could crush spidermans head , but could also punch a whole through spiderman.
It hasn't happened because no one has tried to do so to Wolverine with their bare hands. Everytime a powerhouse hits him, they aren't aiming to punch through Wolverine (using a broad fist and all), but punch him away, send him flying. If they wanted to, any of the powerhouses could punch through Wolverine if they open their fist into a more piercing shape. Think about it, it's pretty easy to comprehend.
And where did you get this whole head-crushing idea from? The reason Spidey can punch a whole through is because he is far stronger than Wolvie.
1-2 tons (at the max)<<<<<<<<<<<<15-20 tons.
Spidey has taken harder hits to the head without his head exploding. The adamantium makes absolutely no difference whatsoever.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Oh God. Another argument for his healing factor being able to instantly heal him like that. Okay. Wolverine heals very quickly. We know this. But it also takes more time depending on the severity of the wound. He heals bullet wounds quickly. He will not, however, be able to heal an arm through his torso in any sort of quick speed, especially with the arm still there and still causing damage.Also, this is a hypothetical fight. PIS/CIS/Plot devices are a non-factor here. Spidey can do whatever the hell he wants to defeat his opponents. The out-of-character argument is null and void here.
He regenerated his heart in three paneles, he has stabbed himself in the brain in the middle combat to focus his healing factor with out slowing down the combat, and he has stated more then once that punches from the Hulk turn all his insides into mush but that he heals before the next punch is thrown. The wound would seal around Spider-man's arm and his insides would start mending around it the second he plunged his arm into Wolverine. His his healing factor isn't instant but it so fast it might as well be.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He regenerated his heart in three paneles, he has stabbed himself in the brain in the middle combat to focus his healing factor with out slowing down the combat, and he has stated more then once that punches from the Hulk turn all his insides into mush but that he heals before the next punch is thrown. The wound would seal around Spider-man's arm and his insides would start mending around it the second he plunged his arm into Wolverine. His his healing factor isn't instant but it so fast it might as well be.
When Punisher blew Wolvie's face off with a shotgun, how come it didn't start healing immediately? For the next several panels, he was still a faceless being. That's just one example.
When he was blasted by a Sentinel, how come his body was not immediately regenerating itself so that he wasn't incinerated (which, well, he was)?
Depending on the severity of the wound, it takes longer or shorter for the healing to even start. And then it takes longer for the healing to finish. With Spidey's hand in his torso, STILL CONTINUOUSLY causing damage, he's not going to "heal around Spidey's hand". In fact, Spidey will keep making more damage, keep ripping his stomach open just by having his hand there and moving to go for the heart. Continuous damage is one of the things that hinders his healing factor.
